From bronto at pobox.com Tue Aug 3 15:41:50 2004 From: bronto at pobox.com (Anton Sherwood) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:41:50 -0700 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] bounces from other regional lists Message-ID: <410FB23E.2050907@pobox.com> The moderator of exi-bay-* has been getting a lot of bounce notices from other Extropy lists; in the past few days they outnumber the normal junkmail. Some of the rejected messages appear viral. I hesitate to put exi-la-owner at lists.extropy.org mailer-daemon at lists.extropy.org postmaster at lists.extropy.org exi-midwest-bounces at lists.extropy.org exi-tex-bounces at lists.extropy.org on the permanent `discard' roster, but on the other hand see no legitimate reason for any of them to post to exi-bay-*. -- Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/ From kennita at kennita.com Sat Aug 21 21:44:34 2004 From: kennita at kennita.com (Kennita Watson) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <4AE25FF8-F3BB-11D8-B2C7-000A9573E7DA@kennita.com> Gotta love it... Begin forwarded message: > > The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia > Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs > raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting > ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles. > > The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -- and when she found > them, she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne > police investigator Evan Delp. Then she took a taxi to the nearest > police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as > calm as could be: > 'Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.' Cops say > convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and > his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the > hotel room where he and former prison cellmate Stanley Thomas, 29, > were holed up. > > The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but > doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. The one guy, > Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he > won't be using it the way he used to, Detective Delp told reporters. > Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy > to be alive after what they've been > > through. > > The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter > Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding > creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row. "When I saw the > look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was > going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the Law > would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I > wasn't scared of them, either-- because I've got me a gun and I've > been shootin' all my life. And I wasn't dumb enough to turn it in > when the law changed about owning one." > > So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's > description of the sickos', tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days > prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place > till she spotted the ill fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel. > > I knew it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em > anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was > them, the oldster recalled. > > So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the > door and the minute the big one, Furth, opened the door, I shot 'em > right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em > most, you know. Then I went in and shot the other one as he backed up > pleading to me to spare him. Then I went down to the police station > and turned myself in. > > Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with > the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, > but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison, Det. Delp > said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate > her for sainthood and a medal. From kennita at kennita.com Sat Aug 21 23:16:00 2004 From: kennita at kennita.com (Kennita Watson) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:16:00 -0700 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] Re: [extropians] The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20040821145920.034e88e8@perldiver.com> Message-ID: <1064F799-F3C8-11D8-B2C7-000A9573E7DA@kennita.com> Thanks, Dave, for pointing out my observer bias -- I didn't check this one out because I really wanted to believe it was true (and I didn't have "send this to everyone you know" as a hint :-) ) . Probably best to check anything that elicits a "Wow!", whether positive or negative.... Live long and prosper, Kennita On Saturday, Aug 21, 2004, at 14:59 US/Pacific, Dave Krieger wrote: > If only it were true... > > http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grambo.htm > > dk > > > At Saturday 8/21/2004 02:44 PM, Kennita Watson wrote: >> Gotta love it... >> >> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia >>> Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs >>> raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the >>> unsuspecting >>> ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles. >>> -- Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; none but ourselves can free our minds. -- Bob Marley, "Redemption Song" From davekrieger at pobox.com Sat Aug 21 21:59:44 2004 From: davekrieger at pobox.com (Dave Krieger) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:59:44 -0700 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] Re: [extropians] The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia In-Reply-To: <4AE25FF8-F3BB-11D8-B2C7-000A9573E7DA@kennita.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040821145920.034e88e8@perldiver.com> If only it were true... http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grambo.htm dk At Saturday 8/21/2004 02:44 PM, Kennita Watson wrote: >Gotta love it... > >Begin forwarded message: >> >> The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia >> Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs >> raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting >> ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles. >> >> The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -- and when she found >> them, she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne >> police investigator Evan Delp. Then she took a taxi to the nearest >> police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as >> calm as could be: >> 'Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.' Cops say >> convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and >> his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the >> hotel room where he and former prison cellmate Stanley Thomas, 29, >> were holed up. >> >> The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but >> doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. The one guy, >> Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he >> won't be using it the way he used to, Detective Delp told reporters. >> Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy >> to be alive after what they've been >> >> through. >> >> The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter >> Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding >> creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row. "When I saw the >> look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was >> going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the Law >> would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I >> wasn't scared of them, either-- because I've got me a gun and I've >> been shootin' all my life. And I wasn't dumb enough to turn it in >> when the law changed about owning one." >> >> So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's >> description of the sickos', tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days >> prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place >> till she spotted the ill fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel. >> >> I knew it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em >> anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was >> them, the oldster recalled. >> >> So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the >> door and the minute the big one, Furth, opened the door, I shot 'em >> right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em >> most, you know. Then I went in and shot the other one as he backed up >> pleading to me to spare him. Then I went down to the police station >> and turned myself in. >> >> Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with >> the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, >> but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison, Det. Delp >> said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate >> her for sainthood and a medal. > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> >$9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. >http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/WfTolB/TM >--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > ><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extropians/ > ><*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > extropians-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > ><*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From spike.jones at lmco.com Mon Aug 23 17:05:21 2004 From: spike.jones at lmco.com (Jones, Spike) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:05:21 -0700 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <47BF60A2A5AB3C4898B67142F206446904870D3A@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> ...Kennita Watson... > > The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia > Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs > raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting > ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles... ... > > Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with > the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, > but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison, Det. Delp > said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate > her for sainthood and a medal. This is easy, just have a good old fashioned trial, with a jury *of her peers* and see what happens. My guess is they carry her out on their shoulders, with banners waving. spike From mail at HarveyNewstrom.com Mon Aug 23 20:11:51 2004 From: mail at HarveyNewstrom.com (mail at HarveyNewstrom.com) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:11:51 -0400 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] Re: The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia In-Reply-To: <47BF60A2A5AB3C4898B67142F206446904870D3A@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> References: <47BF60A2A5AB3C4898B67142F206446904870D3A@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> Message-ID: <04Aug23.161152-0400_edt.316286-24009+157266@ams.ftl.affinity.com> Jones, Spike writes: > ...Kennita Watson... >> >> The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia >> Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs >> raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting >> ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles... > ... >> >> Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with >> the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, >> but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison, Det. > Delp >> said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate >> her for sainthood and a medal. > > > This is easy, just have a good old fashioned trial, with a jury > *of her peers* and see what happens. My guess is they carry her > out on their shoulders, with banners waving. spike That's probably the conclusion that the creators of this urban legend wanted you to realize. You have successfully been infected with the vigilante meme spread by this feel-good story that never happened, but makes you wish that it had. -- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, CISA, CISM, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC