From bronto at pobox.com Fri Jan 30 01:06:15 2004 From: bronto at pobox.com (Anton Sherwood) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:06:15 -0800 Subject: [Exi-bay-chat] Guns? In Noe Valley? (fwd) Message-ID: <4019AE04.42564379@pobox.com> Subject: Guns? In Noe Valley? Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:31:21 -0800 From: Starchild To: LPSF Discussion List CC: George Bennett CC: Bay Area Liberty This simultaneously encouraging and infuriating item appeared in the December/January Noe Valley Voice (pp. 57-58): "One flyer that got our attention was a notice posted by the Noe Valley Gun Owners Association" advertising a noon Nov. 29 meeting in Douglass Park. The flyer also said the group was advocating a gun dealership on 24th Street. "When the Voice e-mailed the name on the notice (George Bennett at ), asking if the association was real or just a premature April Fool's joke, we got this reply: "'Yes, the organization does exist. We've been around for approximately five years. We currently maintain an e-mail list of approximately 150 Noe Valley residents who consider themselves members. About two-thirds of them are males and one-third female. A good half of our members are homeowners in the neighborhood, married with children of elementary school age. We've been keeping a low profile since we've been harassed (as have our kids) by many of our tolerant progressive neighbors, although I would consider most of our members to be politically progressive... We estimate that one out of every five homes in Noe Valley has a firearm on the premises. "'Our estimate is unscientific,' the writer admits. 'It's just a hunch based on our members' experiences and conversations with their neighbors.' Still doubtful, the Voice decided to show up at Douglass Park (both Upper and Lower) at the appointed time on Nov. 29. The gun owners may have been there, but if they were, they were cleverly disguised as dog walkers, kids, and trees. "Maybe all of those pistol-packin' ladies and gentlemen could sponsor a seminar at Alvarado School on gun safety. It might help allay the fears of the other 80 percent of us who think the sooner we ban those dang things (except in the hands of what the Second Amendment calls 'a well-regulated militia'), the closer we will be to joining the civilized societies of the world where guns are not tolerated as private instruments of lethal violence." It seems to me that the paper has given us an opening. Having suggested a gun safety class at Alvarado School, if someone (either George's group or the SF Pink Pistols, or both) were to sponsor such a class, it would be difficult for them to refuse to publicize it for us. Perhaps they could even be hit up for a free ad, or to make the paper an event co-sponsor. Yours in liberty, <<< Starchild >>> Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San Francisco Candidate for School Board