[extropy-chat] akerue

Emlyn O'regan oregan.emlyn at healthsolve.com.au
Fri Dec 5 01:01:51 UTC 2003


The difference in water displacement would have to have been pretty
significant to prove the point. I doubt that bubbles would have affected it
significantly.

Emlyn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spike [mailto:spike66 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, 5 December 2003 2:00 AM
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> Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] akerue
> 
> 
> The reason I mentioned surface area is that the bubbles
> would stick on the surfaces of the gold.  A crown has
> more surface than a lump of pure gold, so it has more
> places for the bubbles to stick.  spike
> 
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> > [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf 
> Of Brian Lee
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> > Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] akerue
> > 
> > 
> > Surface area should not affect water displacement. If both 
> > the crown and the 
> > lump were pure gold, it wouldn't matter the shape. I think 
> > it's more a 
> > matter of density and mass or something. Surface area comes 
> > into affect when 
> > dissolving solids into liquids but this wouldn't happen.
> > 
> > As for the air bubbles, I hope that Archimedes presented the 
> > king with some 
> > sort of margin of error (after he calmed down of course).
> > 
> > BAL
> > 
> > >From: "Spike" <spike66 at comcast.net>
> > >To: "'ExI chat list'" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > >Subject: [extropy-chat] akerue
> > >Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:39:14 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >King Heiron asked Archimedes if he could determine if
> > >his new crown were pure gold.  While bathing, he realized
> > >that the water he displaced would have the same mass as
> > >his body; therefore, he could measure the water displaced
> > >by the crown against that displaced by an equal amount
> > >of gold, determined that the king had indeed been
> > >defrauded by his jeweler, streaked, shouting eureka!
> > >and you know the story.
> > >
> > >But it occurred to me that a number of small, nearly invisible
> > >air bubbles may have adhered to the irregular surfaces of
> > >the crown, plus it likely had greater surface area than the
> > >pure lump of gold, thus making the crown displace more water
> > >than it would otherwise.  Archimedes might have been
> > >responsible for getting a possibly honest man executed.
> > >
> > >Akerue!
> > >
> > >spike
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