[extropy-chat] Doubt and About

[Kevin Freels]

Is this because of increases in the costs of research, or a general apathy
towards politics and business on the part of research scientists?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harvey Newstrom" <mail at harveynewstrom.com>
To: "'ExI chat list'" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] Doubt and About


> Robin Hanson wrote,
> > I agree this is a huge problem, but you say "diluted" as if
> > you think the situation was ever any different.  It seems to
> > me that this is the way it has always been.
>
> I disagree.  Things are different than they used to be.  University
studies
> are supported by specific corporations now.  Discoveries are proprietary
and
> patented instead of peer-reviewed.  More money is spent on lawyers to
> prevent flaws from being exposed rather than confirmation studies being
> performed.  Corporate fraud has moved into the realms of computer science
> and biology more than ever before.  Areas of research that used to be
purely
> scientific are now overrun with corporate lawyers, politicians, ethics
> advisors, and a whole host of non-technical people trying to control
> technology that they don't understand.  Doctors used to make medical
> decisions, now non-medical professionals in HMOs do.  Scientists used to
> direct research, now corporate boards of directors do.  Researchers used
to
> choose research paths, now venture capitalists do.  The control and
> (mis)representation of technology has shifted from the scientists to the
> eco-political realm.  This shift is new and has completely changed the
> dynamic of how science is done.
>
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