[extropy-chat] Re: SPAM (was Depressing Thought. from Laurence of Berkeley)

[kevinfreels at hotmail.com]

I have come to the conclusion that there are two types of spam. What is spam
to one person might not be spam to another. Maybe one of the largest
difficulties in controlling spam is getting everyone to agree on a clear
definition.
I don't think all unsolicited email advertisements should be banned. The
important part is getting the subject lines correct. If these were correct,
I could easily filter out what I didn;t want.
I don;t quite understand everything about how the headers work, but it seems
to me that there is a layer missing in the protocols for email. Maybe an
added layer that would seperate all email into a few categories such as
PERSONAL, BUSINESS, AND ADVERTISEMENT would be a good idea.
In the advertisement protocol, there would be a lower content level that had
required keywords such as PORN, PENIS ENLARGEMENT, MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING,
etc.
A national, or worldwide spam-police division could be created that you
could forward emails with false headers to. This entity would track down
people who falsify headers and violate the new protocols. It would be paid
for by a small registration fee required paid by legal spammers to have
access to the new protocols.
Violaters could then be burned alive at the stake.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harvey Newstrom" <mail at harveynewstrom.com>
To: "'ExI chat list'" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] Depressing Thought. from Laurence of Berkeley


> Spike wrote,
> > Most of my spam has been coming from individual
> > huge corporations in Nigeria, asking me to help
> > them loot the country.  This government action
> > you call for, will that be in the form of dropping
> > nukes on Nigeria?
>
> Surely you must know that none of these really come from the government of
> Nigeria.  They are all frauds.  In fact, I believe almost all spam are
> frauds.  They fake their addresses so you can't trace them to their real
> source.  They fake headers and subjects to make you look at them even
though
> they are off-topic.  They fake remove-me links to collect more e-mails to
> spam.  They insert nonsense words to deliberate get past your filters.
They
> sell lists of names to other spammers of supposedly interested people who
> are not really interested.  In short, they know you don't want it and they
> are trying to force you to take it anyway.  This should be an illegal form
> of harassment or abuse.
>
> If spam had accurate subject lines so we could filter out what we didn't
> want, there would be no problem.  Likewise, if declining really worked and
> prevented future spams from that source or about that product, there would
> be no problem.  Spammers are criminals who deliberately try to circumvent
> other people's wishes.  "No" means no!
>
> Whether you believe government should enforce laws or some other solution
> should be used, spammers should be considered illegal and shutdown as
> stalkers who are knowingly harassing unwilling victims.
>
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