[extropy-chat] Harvey's wager

[Brett Paatsch]

Emlyn, I understand (I think).

However, the singularitarian only gets to "hold" the money if they
come forward AND think that Harvey will make good on the 
large sum. There are two (at least) possible reasons for the
singularitarian not to come forward (1) there aren't any that want 
the money (2) they don't think the money is there to be had and
that the offer is just another spurious waste of their valuable time. 

By holding the money I can help Harvey (insert any ambit offerer
of funds not verifiably real and available here) with his plan and 
encourage the singularitarian (insert any ambit claimer of something 
dubious but useful if it could actually be done here) to come
forward as well. 

Everyones a winner and what a swell guy I'd be for making it 
happen :-)

Oops. I've let it out of the bag.

Regards,
Brett

>  Not so quick, Brett. The fact that that singularitarian gets to
> "hold" the money is the only reason the bet is useful to him/her.
> That's Harvey's subtle modification to make the bet worthwhile,
> and stop it being a straight bet on the end of the world*.
> 
> Emlyn
> (* - well, perhaps the end of money, for example, which is functionally
> equivalent when betting with money)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brett Paatsch [mailto:bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2003 11:12 AM
> > To: ExI chat list
> > Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Harvey's wager
> > 
> > 
> > Rick wrote:
> > 
> > > >Oh ye of little imagination.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > How about this scenario:  I immediately pay a large sum
> > > to the singularitian.  The day after the predicted singularity date,
> > > they pay me back my money plus a large sum of their own.
> > > />
> > > 
> > > I'll take that. I say it will be in exactly 87 years, and 310 days. 
> > > And I  wager your one million US dollars on it.
> > 
> > I am a little surprised that no one has stepped forward to offer 
> > to hold the money in safe keeping on this yet.  I noticed Emlyn
> > wanted cash directed or a cheque but that's possibly because
> > he's Australian and either can't see a lot of need for extra 
> > middlemen or has grown tired of over-"servicing" by them.
> > 
> > I'm Australian too, but I will reluctantly put aside my distaste for
> > middlemen who add no value to hold the cash for Harvey or
> > anyone else inclined to the same bet. I won't charge interest or
> > anything like that - I'll hold the money at no cost - but just
> > remember that you owe me a favour ;-)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Brett  
> > [Ps: Don't tell Robin about this though he probably wouldn't
> >  "understand" ;-)  ]
> > 
> > 
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