[extropy-chat] Socialism versus Transhumanism

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Max M <maxm at mail.tele.dk> wrote:
> Mike Lorrey wrote:
> 
> >>Being a social democrat also means that you are agreeing with a
> >>system that has been prooved to work pretty well in several
> nations.
> >>
> >>Being libertarian means that you support a theoretical system that
> is
> >>supposed to work as in the economic theory.
> 
> > Interesting view, which doesn't seem to reflect that the socialist
> > systems of europe always maintain higher unemployment and lower
> growth
> > than the US, which, while not libertarian, is significantly further
> > along in that direction. Within the US, more libertarian states
> tend to
> > higher growth than their less libertarian immediate neighbors.
> 
> 
> I did not try to say that social democracy is the best system, just
> that it's had better support in practice on nation wide "experiments"
> 
> I don't doubt that a more liberal system is better, but I doubt very 
> much that a completely libertarian system is much good.
> 
> It could very well follow Edward de Bono's salt curve. "Some salt is 
> good in food, so more salt is even better."
> 
> Naturally it only holds true until a certain point.

Of course, salt is not growth promoting, either, kinda like socialism.
At little bit *tastes* good to the consumer, but a lot is only useful
for keeping the meat in stasis for long periods. I'd say libertarianism
is more like yeast. A little bit goes a long way, and a planet full is
an unstoppable evolutionary force.

> 
> The devil is in the details, and I am afraid that the little details 
> that will slip through the cracks of a libertarian system are people.

If this were so, then why do socialist states have higher unemployment?

> 
> The reason for the state is to help the weak. The strong will take
> care of themself. They allways have.

The State says this is their reason, then goes about making as many
people as possible as weak as possible, saying that they then need to
be taken care of. Let the strong take care of themselves, let every
individual figure out for themselves that they are strong and not weak,
and there will be far more strong people for each weak person that the
burden is small enough for private charity to handle.

=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
                                       - Gen. John Stark
"Fascists are objectively pro-pacifist..."
                                       - Mike Lorrey
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