[extropy-chat] Guns ad nauseum

[R.Coyote]

Hey Charlie

Firearms are as an extropian topic as martial arts or other personal safely
enhancing strategies, how that for an asssertion!

Obviously optimal living requires one to recognize and respond to  dangers
in ones environment, its hard to live forever while ignoring your personal
safety, personal firearms are only one option (for those who are "allowed")
on a defensive force continuum, down a long list of "if  / then scenarios"

"Beliefs about gun  ownership seem to be deeply rooted to an almost
religious extent".

I would dispose of all (my) guns tomorrow If I had something more effective
for this option strategy on the defensive force continuum, say like a star
trek phazer set on stun.

FWIW I have only recently come to an appreciation of guns after being
strongly anti, on the basis of new evidence I "converted" after a long
discussion with my wife, she illustrated the merits and my ignorance of the
issue.

Again this thread has unwittingly ran down a rabbit hole and has become
narrow casted on the gun issue,  I repeat I find the core tenants of
Consensus party  positions generally  dis-empowering to the individual,
quite repulsively so.

With that I have no more energy to play point counterpoint on this issue.

R Coyote
patron saint of trailerpark transhumanism

> Firstly, you appear to be indulging in exactly the same stereotyping
> that you accuse Alfio of. I make no judgement over whether he's
> stereotyping too; but you're not doing yourself any favours by making
> wild over-generalizations about (a) foreigners and (b) people from
> social backgrounds you don't approve of.
>
> Secondly, and this observation applies to Alfio also, a wise man once
> remarked: "do not waste time arguing with a pig. You won't learn
> anything useful, the pig won't learn anything useful, and all you'll
> succeed in doing is annoying your bacon." I see no sign that this
> debate is being pursued by parties with an honest willingness to adapt
> or moderate their views on the basis of new evidence. Beliefs about gun
> ownership seem to be deeply rooted to an almost religious extent, and I
> think they belong on an extropian list to exactly the same degree as
> discussions of the relative merits of one invisible holy friend over
> another.
>
>
>
> -- Charlie
>
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