[extropy-chat] Guns

[Alfio Puglisi]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Charlie Stross wrote:

>
>On 30 Nov 2003, at 18:10, Mike Lorrey wrote:
>>[...]
>> owning household. Your stereotype is a myth, and a rather offensive one
>> at that, but I understand that it is one that the yellow-baiting
>> european press likes to promulgate with regularity, because being
>> prejudicial and racist against white country dwellers is entirely okay
>> in leftist circles....
>
>[...]
>Firstly, you appear to be indulging in exactly the same stereotyping
>that you accuse Alfio of. I make no judgement over whether he's
>stereotyping too; but you're not doing yourself any favours by making
>wild over-generalizations about (a) foreigners and (b) people from
>social backgrounds you don't approve of.

Actually, it doesn't seem a response to my post. There's another one
somewhere else.

>Secondly, and this observation applies to Alfio also, a wise man once
>remarked: "do not waste time arguing with a pig. You won't learn
>anything useful, the pig won't learn anything useful, and all you'll
>succeed in doing is annoying your bacon." I see no sign that this
>debate is being pursued by parties with an honest willingness to adapt
>or moderate their views on the basis of new evidence. Beliefs about gun
>ownership seem to be deeply rooted to an almost religious extent, and I
>think they belong on an extropian list to exactly the same degree as
>discussions of the relative merits of one invisible holy friend over
>another.

Taken care of it in my second answer. BTW, I agree with you that people
are unlikely to change position, and that a debate is doomed to be
sterile.

Ciao,
Alfio