[extropy-chat] Singularity econimic tradeoffs

[Dan Clemmensen]

Eugen Leitl wrote:

>[I wrote, responding to Samantha's comment that a human is not part of an SI after bbotstrap]
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>>It appears that we are in complete agreement. The seed SI has a human 
>>component, this seed SI bootstraps, and eventually (within a week in my 
>>scenario) reaches a level at which the human component is no longer 
>>useful.  My point is that un-augmented humans do not need to create an 
>>AI to reach this point.
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>Can you restate your point? It doesn't follow, at least according to your
>argument flow above.
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OK. I think that humans will create a system (or a set of separate 
applications) that is
intended to simplify the software implementation task, using brute-force 
techniques
rather than AI and leaving the decision-making to the human. I think 
that a human will
then use the system to improve the system, and that this bottom-up 
approach will lead
to a system that is "smart" enough to augment itself further without 
human intervention.
My argument flow is simply that humans can make decisions very rapidly 
if the decision
criteria are presented properly.

I do not understand why people think that understanding and emulating 
human problem-
solving is the best approach to machine problem-solving. Cars don't 
emulate horses, planes
don't emulate birds, and chess computers don't emulate chess masters, 
although in each
case inventors tried and failed with an emulation approach.