[extropy-chat] Atheists launch inquisition...

[Emlyn]

How about the Tooth Fairy Mike? The tooth fairy doesn't have real
world referents like Santa Claus. In this way she is exactly like God.
What seperates the two in your mind? Or do you believe in the Tooth
Fairy?


On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:28:28 -0800 (PST), Mike Lorrey <mlorrey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> --- Joseph Bloch <jbloch at humanenhancement.com> wrote:
> 
> > Mike Lorrey wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Nope. I am asserting that in order to be an atheist, you must
> > believe
> > >in the non-existence of god. To simply not have faith in or
> > knowledge
> > >knowledge of god's existence is agnosticism.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You can redefine things to mean what you want them to mean, rather
> > than
> > what they really mean (to the people to whom they apply), but it
> > seems
> > rather pointless. Much like this entire conversation, which could
> > just
> > as easily be had in any AOL chatroom with the word "Atheism" in the
> > title.
> 
> Joseph, as we've clearly shown here, it isn't me redefining words here.
> People have been quoting from Websters, OED, etc and all back up my
> assertions.
> 
> >
> > Atheism is the lack of belief in god(s). The position that god(s) do
> > not exist does _not_ require proof any more than the position that
> > Santa Claus does not exist.
> 
> On the contrary, Santa Claus is proven not to exist because all claimed
> 'facts' about him are provably wrong: there is no santa-land at the
> north pole, there are no flying reindeer or sleighs ever caught on
> radar, and all the acts of gift giving ascribed to him are provably the
> acts of others. Saint Nicolaus once DID exist, and can historically be
> proven to have existed, and performed deeds which became legendary, but
> we also can prove that he is now dead, ergo there is no Santa Claus and
> this can be proven by evidence that he no longer exists as a living
> being by the positive fact of the existence of his remains in a crypt.
> 
> Atheism is not the lack of belief in god(s), but the belief in a lack
> of god(s).
> 
> 
> 
> =====
> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
>                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806)
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