[extropy-chat] The emergence of AI
Hara Ra
harara at sbcglobal.net
Sun Dec 5 05:27:15 UTC 2004
Waay back in college days (1964 or so) as a physics nerd I discovered
psychology. Not the Freud stuff, or any of the other theories like Jung and
so on, but via learning human communications by process groups (a nicer
term than marathon or encounter). I had discovered rather brutally that my
social skills weren't and thus began a 35 year process of insight,
emotional growth, and self improvement, mostly cognitive and learning what
my feelings were about, as well as how to communicate a bit better.
For many years I was of the opinion that "It's all software", and many
threads were explored, some quite esoteric, others a la Leary, etc. I don't
think so any more. There is a whole selection of levels of plasticity, from
recalling a new phone number to my genes. As far as I can tell, some levels
get installed in early babyhood and that's it. As a cryonicist, I hope to
get a neuronal editor and eventually make changes which cannot be done at
the present.
Though it is very hard to really realize when something is basically
hardwired, there is also a kind of liberation - there is no need to try
changing things one lacks tools for. I can focus my limited energy in the
possible. I hope the cryonics will work, so the possible is larger.
>Basically, I don't believe there's any such thing as fully recursive
>self-improvement; it seems to me there always has to be a static part
>that drives the improvement of the dynamic part; but I'm curious about
>the reasons people like Eliezer have for believing otherwise.
>
>- Russell
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