[extropy-chat] aargh
Eliezer Yudkowsky
sentience at pobox.com
Sat Dec 18 18:16:14 UTC 2004
Damien Broderick wrote:
> At 11:23 AM 12/18/2004 -0600, I wrote:
>
>> Using pre-screened `star' Ss, Ertel claims a robust success rate
>> averaging 70% where 50% +/- is expected by chance.
>
> Sorry, I hadn't been awake long when I wrote that. Ertel's set-up
> contains balls numbered 1 through 5, so the chance likelihood is 0.2,
> not 0.5. Which is why his Ss' results are so impressive.
>
> Here's the abstract of a recent poster (I hope the superscripts etc make
> it through the emailer):
Damien, I see where he says that results under control are statistically
significantly less good than results obtained at home. (What a surprise!)
I don't see where it says 70% hits (20% expected) effect size.
Say, remember that research on the power of prayer that claimed an effect
size of 50% conceptions versus 25% conceptions? Remember how I said that
this was a nice non-marginal effect size, and how the claim was much
healthier than all these alleged marginal effects, because it was much
easier to test? A nice, clear, claim - even though I expected it to turn
out false?
And then remember how that research turned out to be totally bogus?
If this guy is getting an effect size of 70% hits on a 20% target, I like
that. That's a nice, clear claim. Needless to say, it will also turn out
to be totally bogus.
Here's the sad thing about psi research that I discovered during my own
investigation: The interesting results turn out to be just FAKE. You
don't usually think of that when you're trying to explain a reported
experimental result... but with psi, so it goes.
--
Eliezer S. Yudkowsky http://singinst.org/
Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
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