[extropy-chat] John John Perry Barlow vs The Man

[Samantha Atkins]

Welcome to America!
Go straight to jail!
Do not collect dumb ideas of freedom if you should pass a copy of the
Bill of Rights or Constitution on the way.

- s


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:18:21 -0800 (PST), Mike Lorrey <mlorrey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Dirk Bruere <dirk at neopax.com> wrote:
> 
> > Amara Graps wrote:
> >
> > > "Apparently, Barlow did intend to suggest this. At least, he was
> > > prevented from introducing a lot of evidence about how screeners do
> > > things that are useful for finding drugs. At a minimum, Barlow
> > wanted
> > > to suggest that screeners who are supposed to be looking for
> > > explosives should not be permitted to use search techniques or
> > > procedures that are specifically aimed at finding drugs rather than
> > > explosives (arguably, for example, shaking a bottle).
> > >
> > I would expect that in a proper search for explosives not only would
> > bottles be shaken, but bottles not sealed by the manufacturer would
> > be
> > opened for cursory inspection. It is still extremely easy to smuggle
> > bombs aboard aircraft if the right explosive (liquid) is used. As for
> > batteries, detonators etc, can an X ray distinguishe between a
> > detonator and an electrolytic cap in a laptop?
> 
> An xray machine is far more than an xray machine these days. They can
> distinguish between metals, semiconductors, organics, etc and can sniff
> nitrates, which is the primary flag of explosives.
> 
> That they only said that he had some wires in a pocket of his bag was
> their pretext, it is clear that his position as founder of the EFF is
> the real cause of the search. There are multiple grades of persons on
> the no-fly list. The DHS and TSA have a well developed blacklist which
> government bureaucrats have shown a tendency to place people on for
> their anti-statist views alone. The number of people I know who get the
> full body search when flying has gone up significantly in the last
> year.
> 
> Similarly, the number of people being investigated and prosecuted in
> the Free State movement is similarly climbing. I myself am now the
> target of a fishing expedition based on a very flimsy pretext that I
> happend to have had a case in the past year in a court where someone
> was allegedly threatened at some point in time for some reason.
> 
> Barlow's big error was in carrying the drugs in his checked-in luggage.
> If you are travelling with contraband, either carry it on your person,
> or don't carry it at all. Unless you get a full pat-down, they won't
> find it on you. The new extensive pat-down procedures do call this into
> question, though.
> 
> If there is a chance you will get singled out (and if you are an
> outspoken libertarian, you will), don't even try it, even if you have a
> doctors prescription for the pot in your home state. Airplanes are
> federal jurisdiction.
> 
> =====
> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
>                                       -William Pitt (1759-1806)
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