Sadly, you can switch the words "Palestinian" and "Israeli" to make the other side's opposing argument. -- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, CISA, CISM, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC Certified IS Security Pro, Certified IS Auditor, Certified InfoSec Manager, NSA Certified Assessor, IBM Certified Consultant, SANS Certified GIAC <HarveyNewstrom.com> <Newstaff.com>