[extropy-chat] LIST: Nominating Moderators

Acy James Stapp astapp at fizzfactorgames.com
Fri Jul 2 17:12:17 UTC 2004

I have several objections.

An email list or newsgroup can be permanently 
archived on your machine. A scoop discussion can not.
As a consequence, I can locally index and search
my history for particular comments.

A web-based system presumes continuous online access.
Several times I've spent a good hour or more composing
a considered reply to a particular post only to have
it eaten by the system.

Scoop and other collaborative blogging systems
inevitably lead to groupthink. Giving arbitrary 
users the ability to censor or hide comments leads
users to disagree by hiding comments they oppose
instead of posting a rational, considered response.

In addition, a simple configuration of your mailer
or news reader allows you to delay posting of your
message, giving you time to reconsider and realize
your message was incendiary, stupid, or just incomplete.

I can read an email list of newsgroup and still
seem like I'm working. Believe it or not, this is
a big issue for many people. In addition, many 
workplaces limit access to the web; and many web
filters will add a sight to their filter list
simply because it is controversial.

My vote is for a mailing list, or a private (not
necessarily membership-limited, just not propogated
via nntp) news server. It maintains a hierarchy
of responses, and can be stored and browsed locally
and offline.


natashavita at earthlink.net wrote:
> Okay, I'll check it out.
> What do you all think?
> N
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Giu1i0 Pri5c0 pgptag at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 17:30:50 +0200
> To: natashavita at earthlink.net, extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] LIST: Nominating Moderators
> I think a system based on peer pressure that incentives posters to
> write good and relevant articles would be a positive feature. I think
> newcomers would limit themselves to posting comments to existing
> threads untli they become familiar with the list dynamics.
> Look at sciscoop.com and of course kuro5hin.org for examples of scoop.
> G.
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:22:39 -0400, natashavita at earthlink.net
> <natashavita at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> -----------------
>>> Have you thought of using instead a system like Scoop
>>> (scoop.kuro5hin.org) where all readers act as moderators? Only posts
>>> with enough votes are published to the list, and with a placement
>>> depending on the score.
>> Yes, we have discussed this from time to time.  Wouldn't this
>> pressure posters  pressured to be erudite, funny or informative, for
>> fear they wouldn't get any thumbs up?  Newcomers might resist
>> posting if they felt they were being judged. 
>> Thoughts?
>> thanks!
>> Natasha

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