[extropy-chat] Politics: US talks of suspending elections
Gregory Propf
gpropf1 at cfl.rr.com
Mon Jul 12 23:46:14 UTC 2004
Mike Lorrey wrote:
>--- Gregory Propf <gpropf1 at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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>>Mike Lorrey wrote:
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>>>It will be funny, for about five seconds. Then I'll have to admit to
>>>all the Birchers whose conspiracy theories about bankers, lawyers,
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>>the
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>>>ultra-rich, and communism, I disparage so much, that they were
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>>right...
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>>This is just an ad hominem. That the Birchers might have been
>>excessively vigilant in their theorizing about the dangers of an
>>especially powerful central authority does not mean that such dangers
>>do not exist. It is the height of irony to me that "libertarians"
>>today are often the most vocal supporters of fascism. One of the
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>many
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>>reasons I won't be moving to New Hampshire anytime soon.
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>"fascism"? What, pray tell, is your definition of the moment for the
>word? Usually I hear such words spoken by communists when we
>libertarians object to their confiscation of property rights.
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So now I'm a communist. More ad hominem.
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>The fact is that the actions of FDR and RFK, or of Bush, may be
>abhorrent to your particular morality, but they are not contrary to the
>Constitution, the Common Law, or the Geneva Conventions, because all
>recognise that violent insurgencies are a special case.
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>Of course, I'm not surprised by your response. Your side of the table
>is always of a mind of "Do what I say, not what I do."
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So we finally have it then? The admission that FDR and RFK were right.
Oh how I waited for that admission.
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