[extropy-chat] SIAI seeking seed AI programmer candidates

Adrian Tymes wingcat at pacbell.net
Wed Jun 2 17:42:52 UTC 2004


--- Eliezer Yudkowsky <sentience at pobox.com> wrote:
> Many projects have a lot more resources.  Some may
> even have a fair chance 
> of success on the deadly part of the problem.  I'm
> not aware of one other 
> AI project out there that even tries to rise to the
> challenge of FAI, 
> Adrian, not one.

They're not ready to rise to the challenge - yet.
Once we're a lot closer to true AI, F or not, there
will be a lot more that switch towards making sure the
result is good for humanity.

> Getting off Earth
> seems highly unlikely 
> to help escape a UFAI.  Trickle-down theories of
> solving the Singularity, 
> like creating new energy resources, or arguing over
> who should be in the 
> White House, I do now formally declare to be
> tempting distractions and ask 
> that all ignore them.

These two points seem to be our fundamental
disagreement.  We'll have to agree to disagree, to an
extent.  (I agree that arguing over who should be in
the White House next year has only extremely limited
relevance, at best, such that it's probably not worth
your or my time to invest much energy there.  But I
think there are other things that can have significant
enough impacts, relative to the expected efforts, to
be worth pursuing even if they aren't directly
necessary for the Singularity.  You don't.  And thus
we go our separate ways.)



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