[extropy-chat] Sorry, Robert Bradbury is no Fa....

[Hubert Mania]

Robert Bradbury is NO FASCIST, this definitely is an unappropriate term. His
mind games are even worse than any historical left or right wing fascist
movement has ever produced. So I really have to think about a new term for
this incredible behaviour. For the time being I will call his thinking

"uglitarian".

What turns this whole affair into an absurdity is:

ExI representatives don't even *recognize* the brutalization of thinking and
feeling any more. Those who feel responsible for the image of Extropy should
know this was is the third time, as far as I was able to count, that RB came
up with this great idea of nuking *non-rational* religious countries. Three
times Exi represenatives were unsensistive, apathetic and completely
unimaginative towards the pictures of a semiglobal genocide, RB proposed.
They allowed him to repeat his proposals. So I must believe those who
representatively advocate the cause of extropian transhumanism seem to have
lost touch with their human instincts, have a wrong understanding of freedom
of speech and are stuck in a process of brutalization that is only
comparable to fascist examples. So Frau Vita-More - differently to what she
suggests in one of her recent mails - did chime in *by herself* very early
in this thread toying around with Damiens proposal, Robert should swallow
his pills, though I don't know if it is a metaphor or something real in
"this" context. Don't bother to explain, though. Meanwhile I really don't
care anymore.

As far as the term "fascim" is concerned: I grew up in Germany in the 1950s
and had to deal with a father, cousins, uncles, teachers, doctors and
priests who had killed innocent people for a fascist regime. I have had
thousands of discussions about national socialism and fascism and the
difference between these two. I am tired of the social, political and
philosofical definitions. At the core of fascism as far as I do understand
it, lies the desire to *physically and pre-emptively destroy the enemy*,
whether he is a real or imaginary threat. Everybody who reads Bradburys
uglitarian proposals should understand why I call him a fascist and Extropy
a neo fascist group because Extropy gives him a platform for repeating his
hideous crap three times so far and does not explicitely distance itself
from it. This is unsufferable.

And now for some more personal insults. And please note that I regard the
following lines as a friendly rant and a good natured comment. They do *not*
reflect what I would *really* like to say.

No, Frau Vita-More, RB is not Devil's advocate. This is ridiculous and
reflects a misunderstood concept of the term. RB is nothing but a pitiful
freak with an assemblage of clinically relevant psycho complexes. I strongly
advise you to read the proposal of this unsufferable person one more time.
He proposed semiglobal genocide for *non-rational* religious people in an
area east from the Mediterranean Sea until about North Korea. Did you get
it? SEMIGLOBAL GENOCIDE. Put on your glasses. One more time: SEMIGLOBAL
GENOCIDE. Nothing less, Frau Vita-More. No more vita for any Islamic person
in the world.

So, does this inexpressably criminal bullshit push the envelope and makes
you think deeper than before?

Maybe how to take away the vita of more people more efficiently?

Vote, if you want to nuke Jerusalem for breakfirst or as a sweet?

Wipe out Northern Afghanistan on the 4th of July, 10 p.m., just before the
local fireworks start?

The only reason for thinking deeper is the urgent need for a new word that
exceeds fascism. Because what RB proposed is worse than any other form of
left and right wing fascism that has ever existed. Otherwise, no person with
a bit of sensitivity, reason and feeling needs to be pushed into thinking by
a person with a mind so ugly and utterly degraded. It is an insult for
anybody who still has not lost his touch with vita, Frau More.

I don't know the nature of the events that created this awful mixture of
paranoia, frustration, hate and fear in this assemblage of confused meat
that he believes is a formidable brain. RB is no devil's advocate. He is the
most diseased and dangerous person, I ever came across. And I blame you and
your unimaginative Board members for not being able to distinguish between
stimulating mind games and this unsufferable crap that this freak is dishing
out here for the third time already.

Next thing you probably say: he is the sweetest person to be around with,
eh? That's exactly what society women in Munich thought about Adolf Hitler,
too, in 1926. And they were surely wearing the Bavarian equivalent of your
Texas cowboy boots you so proudly like to wear as you said last year on the
eve of the US invasion of Iraq. Not that I think Hitler could have ever
dreamed of the things Robert Bradbury wants to do.

No need to expel me from the list. There is nothing left to say. Extropy has
lost its credit as a futurist movement that has its roots in humanism. But
don't worry, you can keep going on like before. I am just a damned fool
with no sufficient energy or mundane power to fight against this
brutalization and degradation in supposedly progressively thinking brains.