[extropy-chat] Atheists launch inquisition...

[Giu1i0 Pri5c0]

Samantha, I am not talking of religious spiritually minded in general.
I am talking of a very specific breed of fundamentalist "christians"
who have been pushing intolerance and hate to unacceptable extremes
for centuries. As for their burning Giordano Bruno, it is in history
books.
I am VERY worried of extropians taking their side.
G.


On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:16:45 -0800, Samantha Atkins
<samantha at objectent.com> wrote:
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> On Nov 24, 2004, at 11:15 PM, Giu1i0 Pri5c0 wrote:
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> > Banning an important historic document from schools on (atheist)
> > religious ground is very disturbing, as is banning scientific evidence
> > on evolution from schools on (christian) religious ground. Rewriting
> > history, and rewriting science, are always first steps toward a
> > totalitarian Orwellian system. Let's hope both types of talibanism are
> > only temporary reactions to the overheated political climate.
> > Mike, I am puzzled by your more and more frequent defense of religious
> > nuts.
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> Hmm. Not very gentle today are we?  Religious nuts?  Are you talking
> only about the subset of religious/spiritual minded folks who really
> are nuts or is this a blanket assumption that all such are nuts?  Sorry
> to have to ask.  But I find it best to in these parts.
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> > My analysis: you hate what you call "liberals" so much that you prefer
> > to side with the christian talibans on the basis of a feeling that
> > "the enemies of my enemy are my friends" (faulty logic to say the
> > least).
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> This is again psychologizing - questioning the supposed internal
> workings of a conversational opponent instead of their argument
> directly.   It also looks a bit like an attempt at shaming.
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> > You are proud that the christian talibans have beaten the
> > liberals in the US, and now regard them as precious allies.
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> Whoa, this is over the top.
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> > My friend: just wake up. These are the same people who used to
> > actually BURN people for exercising their right to free thought and
> > speech. These are the same people who burned Giordano Bruno, put
> > Galileo in jail, and held most of Europe in a totalitarian terror
> > regime for centuries. Just read history.
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> Wow.  Religious people generally are the same everywhere?
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> > You call yourself a libertarian, but are ready to defend the
> > witch-hunters that history has proven to be the worst enemies if
> > personal freedom. You call yourself an extropian, but side with those
> > who want to ban all research on advanced medical technologies that can
> > make us better than today's humans. You proudly call yourself an
> > American, but please try to realize that your new taliban friends are
> > more and more against all that Jefferson and Paine stood for.
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> Please take a breath and try again.  This is a slam.
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> - samantha
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