[extropy-chat] morons in office

[Brian Lee]

I think that tested intelligence is subjective to the testing body. But true 
Intelligence is absolute and spans culture, time, etc. Intelligence is the 
ability to comprehend spatial concepts, relate to others, etc etc. Sort of 
like raw computational power of the brain.

I read this book once by David Wingrove called "Chun Kwo" or something many 
years ago. Sort of pulpy sci-fi (future alternate history where china's 
culter dominates) but anyway... One of the characters was extremely 
intelligent and he was able to picture the entire night sky with his eyes 
closed and then rotate all of the stars as they would throughout the night's 
movement.

I think the character was an uneducated, poor child who had raw capacity. 
It's sort of a balance between raw brain power and not be autistic.

I also think it has a lot to do with concept synthesis, not just 
memorization.

BAL

>From: "Kevin Freels" <cmcmortgage at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] morons in office
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:33:17 -0500
>
>Intelligence is subjective. Also, testing ability can vary with
>environmental conditions and with changes in mental states such as anger,
>anxiety and emotional stress. Also, I never understood how you could
>quantify such a thing with a number when people have such a hard time
>agreeing on what intelligence is to begin with.
>Most can;t even agree on whether or not dolphins and chimpanzees are
>intelligent.
>
>So I pose this question: What is intelligence?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Adrian Tymes" <wingcat at pacbell.net>
>To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] morons in office
>
>
> > Closer to the truth: especially at high levels, your
> > IQ primarily measures your skill at taking IQ tests.
> > (And if the tests aren't calibrated to accurately
> > measure high IQ, then anything above 130 or maybe
> > above 145 is statistically the same/within the margin
> > of error as most other scores within that range, no?)
> >
> > --- Brian Lee <brian_a_lee at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I think I read somewhere that your IQ drops 1 point
> > > every time you tell
> > > someone else :)
> > >
> > > BAL
> > >
> > > >From: "Henrique Moraes Machado"
> > > <hemm at openlink.com.br>
> > > >To: "ExI chat list"
> > > <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] morons in office
> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:41:43 -0300
> > > >
> > > >I am 147 and my leadership ability tends to zero. I
> > > think leadership
> > > >ability has no relation at all with IQ levels. Off
> > > course too low an IQ
> > > >would render one useless for even being leaded.
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Brian Lee" <brian_a_lee at hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:55 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] morons in office
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >| Were they using a standard deviation of 10 or 15?
> > > For a standard
> > > >deviation
> > > >| of 10, Gore is near genius with a 135.
> > > >|
> > > >| I also think that IQ does not directly correlate
> > > to leadership ability.
> > > >I've
> > > >| some super geniuses who were useless and some
> > > average (110) who could run
> > > >an
> > > >
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