[extropy-chat] Bush wants another $75 billion for wars

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Sean Diggins  <sean at valuationpartners.com.au> wrote:

> egalitarian outcomes.  Presumably, despite being opposed to
> anarchism, contemporary libertarians do not share the complete lack
of
> compassion for others which I (probably mistakenly) identified within
> some of Mike Lorrey's recent posts.

Quite mistakenly. What I have a lack of compassion for are communists,
socialists, and other looters who automatically assume that someone,
who is against jackbooted confiscatory government thuggery performed to
obtain "your fair share" "for the children" or other excuses, is bereft
of compassion for the unfortunate or needy.

As anybody who has been on this list for the last year knows, I am far
from lacking in compassion. I quit my job to nurse my mother for 8
months after she finished 10 months in the hospital. I have donated
thousands of hours in my past to volunteering at hospitals, ski
instructing disadvantaged kids, and as a director for a shooting club.
I have donated thousands of hours to the liberty movement in the last
several years, promoting the Free State Project and the LPNH.

What people like you resent is that I didn't donate that time in a way
and for a purpose that the state dictates, at the barrel of a gun.

I want to help those less well off in this world, but I want it done
ethically, without coersion, and in the way that I deem proper.

> 
> Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the term "libertarian" is used within
> this list. There seems to be many definitions, from libertarian
> socialism to anarchic definitions to US liberalism, depending on
> whether one has a US perspective or European.

The idea that one can have freedom and self-ownership without having
the right to own and reinvest the fruits of one's labor, and the
profits from that investment, is laughable, erroneous, and truly
irrational.

> 
> I like the way this page hows the confusion (and hence, my need to
> know more about the views of the libertarians within this email list)

> 
> http://www.free-definition.com/Libertarianism.html
> 
> I would have thought that a more egalitarian world would be a
> desirable outcome post-singularity. Am I wrong or misguided to hope
> for this? If this is a desirable outcome, what is the hope or
> motivation to achieve such an outcome without acceptance of a global
> "duty of care"? Surely, egalitarian outcomes should apply to all,
> not just those in countries wealthy enough to afford the benefits
> of new technologies?  

The definition of a Libertarian is a person who believes that it is
wrong to initiate force against another individual for any reason. That
is all.

This includes initiating force against others in order to steal their
property to pay for your 'egalitarianism'. Economic equality and
Liberty do not mix.

=====
Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
Blog: http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Sadomikeyism


		
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