[extropy-chat] Bush wants another $75 billion for wars

[Al Brooks]

Well, I'm willing yet to use the term ruling class
because it is a convenient way of expressing the
hierarchical aspect of our nature. As I said before,
the realistic goal is promoting, ever so gently, a
multi-racial ruling class rather than the white ruling
class, such is finding a new system, or perhaps
refashioning the old 'system'. 
 It will take a very long time (but being in our 40s
we're already past our prime anyway). The 'agitprop
ridden commies' --no, you are not one of them-- who
get all worked up over the starving people in Africa
don't help the starving people in Africa, not unless
they desire to sacrifice their lives a la someone like
Mother Theresa. 


>How about if I promise to never use the term "ruling
> class" on this list again?
> Will that free me from you guys seeing me as an
> agitprop ridden commie? 
> As I have said before, my main issue is with finding
> a NEW system, hopefully
> catalysed by The Spike.
> I'm keen to discuss how that might occur, whether
> people here feel it might
> occur, what form it might take etc.
> 
> Forget about "bad religion" or "not good politics"
> as you suggest - my case
> is that egalitarian outcomes ARE desirable and I'm
> yet to hear why they are
> not. Now, I don't mean this is the strict marxist
> sense. I mean it in the
> sense that the existing political, economic and
> scoial systems should (and
> can) change for the better through the advances in
> technology offered by The
> Spike, with the result being a reudction of the
> great and widening divide
> between the wealthy and the poor.
> 
> Mike wants to help those less well off in this
> world. He wants it done
> ethically. I couldn't agree more. It is a different
> way of saying exactly
> the same thing I'm saying, except Mike would
> (presumably) strongly oppose
> anything which might be termed "re-distribution of
> wealth", as it would
> possibly involve the wealthy people not only making
> concessions, but
> relinquishing some of their wealth and power.
> 
> My point is this - the new technologies should be
> able to do this without
> force, without any relinquishing. Therefore, there
> really is an opportunity
> for major political/economic/social progress to
> emerge during/post Spike.
> Marx is rendered irrelevant. But likewise, the role
> of the capitalists
> should also change. This is what I want to discuss.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
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