[extropy-chat] Moveon.org

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Brian Lee <brian_a_lee at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Can't you be a fascist and a monarchist? They don't seem exclusive to
> me.  Wasn't Hitler a democratist and a fascist?

Socialist and fascist (hence the term "National Socialist Workers
Party").

There tends to be hostility, resentment, and conflict between groups in
the same political arena that espouse nationalist vs internationalist
versions of their philosophy, as well as between factions arguing about
forced imposition of policies vs consensus/conversion/evolution of
policy. It is happening today in the GOP, the DNC, and the LP. 

It happened between the Nationalist Stalinists and the Internationalist
Trotskyists. 

This might hint that the old Nolan chart should also have a third axis
focused on foreign policy, ranging from interventionist to
isolationist. Perhaps another focusing on whether individuals should
right their own wrongs or rely on the state to do it for them.

While we can quibble over who is or is not a socialist or a libertarian
(an anarchist is a libertarian but a libertarian is not necessarily an
anarchist) the fact is that MoveOn.Org advocates for the partial or
full nationalization of one or more sectors of our economy which have
traditionally been mostly or solely private enterprise driven. These
include health care, firearms, the media, securities markets,
transportation and real estate. That is a very significantly socialist
agenda that would move this country 50%-75% of the way to a socialist state.

=====
Mike Lorrey
Chairman, Free Town Land Development
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                         -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
Blog: http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Sadomikeyism


		
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