[extropy-chat] Moveon.org

Samantha Atkins samantha at objectent.com
Tue Sep 21 08:15:01 UTC 2004


Wow!   So how is this not evidence that our legal code is utterly 
fubar?   What is the standard for determining "conspiracy"?  Is it 
based on some amount of planning or involvement of other people in some 
particular ways or what?  Are only spontaneous unplanned actions 
capable of being misdemeanors?  Does much else for even the least 
infraction justify prison and stripping away many rights for the rest 
of one's life?

What kind of country do we live in?  And what can we do about it?

- s

On Sep 20, 2004, at 4:53 PM, David Lubkin wrote:

> Adrian Tymes wrote:
>
>> Whether or not this should be the case is another
>> story.  But it's been well established that intent
>> alone is insufficient.  (Granted, there have been
>> prosecutions based on the most minimal of deeds.  If
>> you could find some deed to charge him on, you might
>> have a case.  What you have cited here is not actually
>> illegal behavior.
>
> Conspiracy is a felony, whether the crime is committed or not. 
> Curiously, conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is a felony.
>
> Also, if I fire a gun I think is loaded but isn't, or shoot a corpse I 
> thought was still alive, I can be found guilty of attempted murder 
> (assuming the other elements are present).
>
>
> -- David Lubkin.
>
>
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