[extropy-chat] RFID smartcard passports and driver's licences

[Mike Lorrey]

The Exxon speed pass is quite different, so you don't know what you are
talking about. Modern RFID tags can be read up to 17 feet away,
according to the manufacturers own propaganda.

Doesn't Dustins post count as ad hominem?

--- Dustin Wish with INDCO Networks <dwish at indco.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> Chicken little, it is not that easy to hack RFID or read the info. I
> think
> you need to chill and take off the tin-foil hat. You have to be VERY
> close
> to read the id and there is very little info on the chip anyway. I
> think if
> they can read your wearing NIKE's from your RFID tag then I'm sure
> they are
> close enough to look at your feet and see it. My advise, stay off the
> dope,
> move out of your mom's trailer, and worry more about the economic
> impact of
> the loss of jobs to China. 
> 
> I will cite a proven crack of the Exxon speedpass as an example:
> 
> http://www.craveonline.com/garage/stories.php?sid=1346
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
> [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of "Hal
> Finney"
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:49 PM
> To: extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] RFID smartcard passports and driver's
> licences
> 
> Mike Lorrey writes:
> > Virtually ANY customer loyalty program card today has an RFID in
> it. We
> > need wallets made from steel mesh cloth to provide shielding for
> our
> > cards from casual scanners. War-walking will be the new form of
> > identity theft in the near future, walking past people on  a busy
> > street with your card-scanner enabled PDA ripping peoples
> identities
> > without their knowledge...
> >
> > Furthermore, most shoes sold today have an RFID in the heel. All
> NIKE
> > sneakers do. More and more clothes have them in the seams, to
> comply
> > with Walmart vendor requirements. Most stores already have the
> > equipment (not the software) to scan everyone coming into the store
> to
> > see what RFIDs they have on them to make a judgement as to whether
> that
> > person is someone the store wants for a customer.
> 
> I did not think that RFID had progressed so far, so fast.  Do you
> have
> any citations to prove any of this?  I only found references to one
> loyalty program card at a German store that was testing experimental
> RFID technology.  And I couldn't find anything about Nikes having
> RFIDs,
> or clothing.
> 
> www.spychips.com is a product of the consumer group CASPIAN which
> opposes loyalty cards and other privacy-invasive programs.  They had
> a
> lot of information on the Metro Future store loyalty cards, which
> were
> discontinued after protest.  But nothing about shoes or clothes.  I'm
> sure
> they'd go ballistic if these practices were actually as widespread as
> you say.
> 
> Hal
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Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
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