[extropy-chat] can't war protesters do better?
Dirk Bruere
dirk at neopax.com
Sun Aug 7 15:06:37 UTC 2005
Keith Henson wrote:
> At 12:38 PM 07/08/05 +0100, Dirk wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> a) The Catholic minority has been breeding faster than the Protestant
>> majority and within a decade the positions will be reversed.
>
>
> The model's claim is that rising income per capita shuts off war.
>
> Most places in Europe population growth of Catholics is at or below
> replacement. Is Ireland and/or N Ireland different?
>
Until recently yes.
http://artemis.austincollege.edu/acad/english/jlincecum/eire.html
"
When the Irish Free State was created in 1922, the Catholic Church
established itself with a vengeance and had several of its doctrines
written into the Irish constitution: e.g., no contraceptives, no
divorce. In effect, Ireland was like a theocratic state, that is, one
in which the government is a secular arm of the church. Although its
power has weakened of late (mainly because of several scandals of
major proportions involving priests and bishops and because
modernization tends to bring a more secular society), recently the
church led the fight against a constitutional. amendment that would
have allowed divorce under specified circumstances.
Irish Catholicism has always been more conservative and puritanical
that that of American or European catholics. Until about 1970 it made
its presence felt in many aspects of Irish life: such as the threat of
excommunication for young catholics who wanted to attend a protestant
university. There was heavy censorship of movies and books and plays.
The major influence of the church on modern Irish lit. has been to
foster an attitude of criticism and opposition. Some of Ireland’s best
lit. has been anti-clerical. Ireland, which used to boast of exporting
priests to other countries around the world, now has too few young men
choosing the priesthood as their vocation even to supply the needs at
home.
"
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=326&HistoryID=aa31
On the social front the issues of urgency derive from the power and
influence of the Roman Catholic church. On three topics of passionate
concern to ordinary families - divorce, contraception, abortion - there
are continuing struggles between liberal and Catholic pressure groups.
On abortion, a referendum in 1983 confirms the existing policy of
absolute prohibition; nine years later another referendum relaxes the
ban in certain circumstances. On the availability of contraception
Catholic opposition finally crumbles in 1985. A referendum on divorce in
1985 confirms that it is not to be available in the republic;
subsequently, after a referendum in 1995, the ban is lifted.
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Dirk
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