[extropy-chat] Politics: Transhumanist Social System

[nvitamore at austin.rr.com]

From: Giu1i0 Pri5c0 

>While I am very much in favor of decentralization (making decisions at
>the lowest possible level), I think there are a few things that just
>cannot be decentralized efficiently.
>"a multi-disciplinary, non-partisan, writing team" sounds good, and
>of course its feasibility depends on how we define non-partisan. For
>example, I am not-partisan in the sense that I am usually willing to
>listen to arguments regardless of the particular political
>"affiliation" of whoever is proposing the argument. But when it comes
>to choosing between two different and mutually exclusive options, I
>usually (not always, but often) choose an option consistent with a
>specific, "partisan" worldview.

Hi Giulio!

Maybe I am a mutant, but I simply do not sit with any one political view as
entirely positive, workable, and fair-minded.  While I do have a partisan
worldview that is extropic transhumanism, I do not agree with all of
branches of transhumanism. Since transhumanism is basically democratic, we
can go away saying we are democratic.  But this is not the same as the
Democratic Party which, like most parties, sucks terribly.

>I think this is the case for everyone. Fact: we do have political
>views, and we do have different political views. 

Yes absolutely.  

>So, I believe the
>challenge is not defining a uniform political view, but finding
>workable agreements on a case by case basis. 

This has been my suggestion.  Remember, I have stated that I think
transhumanism is non-partisan as a philosophy and cultural movement.  By
non-partisan I mean inclusive of the best means to solve the problem,
regardless of what political party the means is tied to.  (In fact, it
probably would not be tethered to tightly to any one political party if it
has the ability to actually solve a problem :-))


>Like a government
>coalityion of different parties - each does not like the others' views
>at all, but they still have to find some king of agreements on the
>practical issues of running the nation.

Well, yes.  And, again, my point is that I am MOST interested in the
mechanism - the architecture - the means for solving the problem:  a
multi-disciplinary, non-partisan writing team.   In other words, leave the
political positioning badge outside the door and put on the intelligent
thinking cap.

Cheers!
Natasha



On 8/18/05, nvitamore at austin.rr.com <nvitamore at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> A transhumanist society needs to be decentralized, with a networked
> economy, and promotion of new social/cultural systems.*
> 
> (This would mean a lack centralized control of a forced choice between,
for
> example, Twentieth Century free market, capitalist democracy, and state
> capitalism and state socialism.)
> 
> *While a transhumanism is a type of community, is not merely a collection
> of individuals, nor is it static. It is comprised of a changing set of
> relationships, attitudes and behavior of its members. It has many
> dimensions which may vary, they are all interconnected. Like the physical
> dimensions of length and time, if any one dimension of social system of
> transhumanism is missing, by definition, the system is incomplete.
> 
> Bottom line:
> 
> Back to Square One:  We need a political agenda and not one that is
> alienating the core views of transhumanism, and not one that is watering
> transhumanism down.
> 
> Forward 2 Steps: To create this we need a multi-disciplinary,
> non-partisian, writing team.
> 
> Natasha
> 
> Natasha Vita-More
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