[extropy-chat] Oxygenating the flame in threads

[Brian Lee]

In order to create a reputation based list, you really need to set up a 
forum site a la slashdot/kur5hin/plastic/etc. This gives you 
karma/whuffie/whatever, filtering and all the stuff you're talking about. Of 
course then you lose the simplicity of email.

BAL

>From: Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc>
>To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>CC: board at extropy.org
>Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Oxygenating the flame in threads
>Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:43:40 -0500
>
>I'd like to implement a reputation system, or some other intelligent system 
>to value posters and threads and encourage optimum discussions and debates. 
>  And I think that Board should discuss this with the list moderators.
>
>Natasha
>
>
>>(sending it a second time, I haven't seen it appear yet)
>>
>>Emlyn:
>>>What you could possibly do is set up an email address - say
>>>extropy-crap at lists.extropy.org. People could forward email they
>>>disliked to that address, as a vote against it. Instead of killfiling
>>>someone, you could forward their entire output to that address, as a
>>>permanent mark of disdain!
>>
>>>I guess you'd also want an extropy-great at lists.extropy.org, to send
>>>excellent posts and favoured postors to.
>>
>>
>>Dear Emlyn,
>>
>>I think that this is a great idea. I would use it.  And I don't
>>think that this strategy is difficult for the average user either,
>>because it would just take a few seconds to 'express yourself'. I
>>think that the posters who poison the list should know that the
>>readers don't like their words. I think that large feedback is
>>sorely needed here, in order to improve list quality and encourage
>>good people to return, and I think that assigning reputation is a
>>very good first step. Reputation, in free places, greases the cogs of
>>the human interchange machinery. How else can buyers evaluate a
>>purchase, and how else can sellers know when they are doing a good
>>job? Reputation and Feeback.
>>
>>Presently, if you are a 'seller' of a message on the extropy-chat
>>list, you'll put your message out there. Feedback for messages here
>>is occasionally a conversational thread, but more often, a flaming
>>thread. Flaming threads require alot more time than assigning 0 or
>>negative to the reputation of the seller, and many opt-out of
>>wanting to spend that time. A simple reputation assignment
>>encourages more to express their opinion of that person's words.
>>More opinions gives more information to the seller that their
>>strategy is effective or not. If the seller discovers that their
>>strategy for 'selling their message' is not effective, then s/he can
>>continue, but it should be clear to her/him that s/he is wasting
>>her/his time on the list (and that person is being willfully
>>ignorant). And/or the list owners (Extropy _is_ the owner of the
>>list), have a very good reason, based on reliable information, to
>>remove that poster.
>>
>>In the early 1990s days of the extropians list, we discussed
>>reputation systems often (in fact Robin's sig line was "Stake Your
>>Reputation"). Think carefully about how important are reputations.
>>The best decisions one makes for one's life in some way uses this
>>data, does it not? For the simplest example of reputations-in-action:
>>look to Ebay: would you want to buy a product from someone who had
>>less than a 98% customer satisfaction? The feedback from Ebay users
>>to push the number so high is astounding when you think about it.
>>
>>Amara
>>
>>--
>>
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><http://www.natasha.cc/>Natasha <http://www.natasha.cc/>Vita-More
>Cultural Strategist, Designer
>Studies of the Future, University of Houston
>President, <http://www.extropy.org/>Extropy Institute
>Founder, <http://www.transhumanist.biz/>Transhumanist Arts & Culture
>
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