[extropy-chat] Oxygenating the flame in threads

[Mike Lorrey]

We have that, the YABB system, but posts to it don't appear on the
list, and some people abused it to whack those with politics they
disagree with (and I'm not talking about myself getting whacked, people
like Spike were given massive negative karmas by some people intent on
an agenda.)

--- Brian Lee <brian_a_lee at hotmail.com> wrote:

> In order to create a reputation based list, you really need to set up
> a 
> forum site a la slashdot/kur5hin/plastic/etc. This gives you 
> karma/whuffie/whatever, filtering and all the stuff you're talking
> about. Of 
> course then you lose the simplicity of email.
> 
> BAL
> 
> >From: Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc>
> >To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> >CC: board at extropy.org
> >Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Oxygenating the flame in threads
> >Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:43:40 -0500
> >
> >I'd like to implement a reputation system, or some other intelligent
> system 
> >to value posters and threads and encourage optimum discussions and
> debates. 
> >  And I think that Board should discuss this with the list
> moderators.
> >
> >Natasha
> >
> >
> >>(sending it a second time, I haven't seen it appear yet)
> >>
> >>Emlyn:
> >>>What you could possibly do is set up an email address - say
> >>>extropy-crap at lists.extropy.org. People could forward email they
> >>>disliked to that address, as a vote against it. Instead of
> killfiling
> >>>someone, you could forward their entire output to that address, as
> a
> >>>permanent mark of disdain!
> >>
> >>>I guess you'd also want an extropy-great at lists.extropy.org, to
> send
> >>>excellent posts and favoured postors to.
> >>
> >>
> >>Dear Emlyn,
> >>
> >>I think that this is a great idea. I would use it.  And I don't
> >>think that this strategy is difficult for the average user either,
> >>because it would just take a few seconds to 'express yourself'. I
> >>think that the posters who poison the list should know that the
> >>readers don't like their words. I think that large feedback is
> >>sorely needed here, in order to improve list quality and encourage
> >>good people to return, and I think that assigning reputation is a
> >>very good first step. Reputation, in free places, greases the cogs
> of
> >>the human interchange machinery. How else can buyers evaluate a
> >>purchase, and how else can sellers know when they are doing a good
> >>job? Reputation and Feeback.
> >>
> >>Presently, if you are a 'seller' of a message on the extropy-chat
> >>list, you'll put your message out there. Feedback for messages here
> >>is occasionally a conversational thread, but more often, a flaming
> >>thread. Flaming threads require alot more time than assigning 0 or
> >>negative to the reputation of the seller, and many opt-out of
> >>wanting to spend that time. A simple reputation assignment
> >>encourages more to express their opinion of that person's words.
> >>More opinions gives more information to the seller that their
> >>strategy is effective or not. If the seller discovers that their
> >>strategy for 'selling their message' is not effective, then s/he
> can
> >>continue, but it should be clear to her/him that s/he is wasting
> >>her/his time on the list (and that person is being willfully
> >>ignorant). And/or the list owners (Extropy _is_ the owner of the
> >>list), have a very good reason, based on reliable information, to
> >>remove that poster.
> >>
> >>In the early 1990s days of the extropians list, we discussed
> >>reputation systems often (in fact Robin's sig line was "Stake Your
> >>Reputation"). Think carefully about how important are reputations.
> >>The best decisions one makes for one's life in some way uses this
> >>data, does it not? For the simplest example of
> reputations-in-action:
> >>look to Ebay: would you want to buy a product from someone who had
> >>less than a 98% customer satisfaction? The feedback from Ebay users
> >>to push the number so high is astounding when you think about it.
> >>
> >>Amara
> >>
> >>--
> >>
>
>>********************************************************************
> >>Amara Graps, PhD          email: amara at amara.com
> >>Computational Physics     vita:  ftp://ftp.amara.com/pub/resume.txt
> >>Multiplex Answers         URL:   http://www.amara.com/
>
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> >>"Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action."
> >>  ---Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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> ><http://www.natasha.cc/>Natasha <http://www.natasha.cc/>Vita-More
> >Cultural Strategist, Designer
> >Studies of the Future, University of Houston
> >President, <http://www.extropy.org/>Extropy Institute
> >Founder, <http://www.transhumanist.biz/>Transhumanist Arts & Culture
> >
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Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
Founder, Constitution Park Foundation:
http://constitutionpark.blogspot.com
Personal/political blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com

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