[extropy-chat] Oxygenating the flame in threads

[Samantha Atkins]

No you don't.  Look at my email forwarding with decorations idea as  
well as the ideas of others already expressed in this thread.

On Aug 28, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Brian Lee wrote:

> In order to create a reputation based list, you really need to set  
> up a forum site a la slashdot/kur5hin/plastic/etc. This gives you  
> karma/whuffie/whatever, filtering and all the stuff you're talking  
> about. Of course then you lose the simplicity of email.
>
> BAL
>
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>> From: Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc>
>> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> CC: board at extropy.org
>> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Oxygenating the flame in threads
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:43:40 -0500
>>
>> I'd like to implement a reputation system, or some other  
>> intelligent system to value posters and threads and encourage  
>> optimum discussions and debates.  And I think that Board should  
>> discuss this with the list moderators.
>>
>> Natasha
>>
>>
>>
>>> (sending it a second time, I haven't seen it appear yet)
>>>
>>> Emlyn:
>>>
>>>> What you could possibly do is set up an email address - say
>>>> extropy-crap at lists.extropy.org. People could forward email they
>>>> disliked to that address, as a vote against it. Instead of  
>>>> killfiling
>>>> someone, you could forward their entire output to that address,  
>>>> as a
>>>> permanent mark of disdain!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess you'd also want an extropy-great at lists.extropy.org,  
>>>> to send
>>>> excellent posts and favoured postors to.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Emlyn,
>>>
>>> I think that this is a great idea. I would use it.  And I don't
>>> think that this strategy is difficult for the average user either,
>>> because it would just take a few seconds to 'express yourself'. I
>>> think that the posters who poison the list should know that the
>>> readers don't like their words. I think that large feedback is
>>> sorely needed here, in order to improve list quality and encourage
>>> good people to return, and I think that assigning reputation is a
>>> very good first step. Reputation, in free places, greases the  
>>> cogs of
>>> the human interchange machinery. How else can buyers evaluate a
>>> purchase, and how else can sellers know when they are doing a good
>>> job? Reputation and Feeback.
>>>
>>> Presently, if you are a 'seller' of a message on the extropy-chat
>>> list, you'll put your message out there. Feedback for messages here
>>> is occasionally a conversational thread, but more often, a flaming
>>> thread. Flaming threads require alot more time than assigning 0 or
>>> negative to the reputation of the seller, and many opt-out of
>>> wanting to spend that time. A simple reputation assignment
>>> encourages more to express their opinion of that person's words.
>>> More opinions gives more information to the seller that their
>>> strategy is effective or not. If the seller discovers that their
>>> strategy for 'selling their message' is not effective, then s/he can
>>> continue, but it should be clear to her/him that s/he is wasting
>>> her/his time on the list (and that person is being willfully
>>> ignorant). And/or the list owners (Extropy _is_ the owner of the
>>> list), have a very good reason, based on reliable information, to
>>> remove that poster.
>>>
>>> In the early 1990s days of the extropians list, we discussed
>>> reputation systems often (in fact Robin's sig line was "Stake Your
>>> Reputation"). Think carefully about how important are reputations.
>>> The best decisions one makes for one's life in some way uses this
>>> data, does it not? For the simplest example of reputations-in- 
>>> action:
>>> look to Ebay: would you want to buy a product from someone who had
>>> less than a 98% customer satisfaction? The feedback from Ebay users
>>> to push the number so high is astounding when you think about it.
>>>
>>> Amara
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ********************************************************************
>>> Amara Graps, PhD          email: amara at amara.com
>>> Computational Physics     vita:  ftp://ftp.amara.com/pub/resume.txt
>>> Multiplex Answers         URL:   http://www.amara.com/
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>> <http://www.natasha.cc/>Natasha <http://www.natasha.cc/>Vita-More
>> Cultural Strategist, Designer
>> Studies of the Future, University of Houston
>> President, <http://www.extropy.org/>Extropy Institute
>> Founder, <http://www.transhumanist.biz/>Transhumanist Arts & Culture
>>
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