[extropy-chat] Qualia should be blatantly obvious, very simple, and crystal clear.

[Eugen Leitl]

On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 02:24:35AM -0700, Brent Allsop wrote:

> represents with FF0000, we represent the same 
> point in our conscious world with ? drum roll please ? the quale red.

No. We represent that as a neuronal activity pattern.
The robot has no more internal view of its hardware
layer than you have of your pink and squishy wetware
layer between your ears.
 
> Now, if it is not crystal clear to you that the 
> quale red we use to represent this information in 
> our conscious world has some very important 
> fundamental differences or if you will 
> ?qualities? from the abstract number our robot 

Clear as drek. You keep iterating assertions, while
adding not a single bit of information in all those
paragraphs. Neither did Hal in his essay of a post.

> uses ? then again ? there is something about this 
> theory of perception, consciousness, and qualia 
> that you are missing or not properly thinking 

"You're not properly thinking about" is not an argument.

> about.  Because it should be blatantly obvious, 
> very simple, and crystal clear.  At least it 
> seems that way to me when I think of it this way.

I don't think you're really thinking when you
think you're thinking.

What's your opinion on gun control?

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