[extropy-chat] Creating software with qualia

[Brent Allsop]

Eugen,

I believe I described what "abstract information represented by arbitrary
causal properties" are in other posts.

Basically, today, our computers represent "abstract" information by
something physical.  It could be anything from holes in punch cards to pits
on a CD, to voltages on wires.  The only way something physical works for
this purpose is if it has "causal properties" to enable communication of the
information it is representing.  Anything with such "causal properties" can
"arbitrarily" be used to represent "abstract" computer information.

The particular physical representation doesn't matter.  But with qualia, in
our conscious minds, what they are phenomenally like does matter.

Brent allsop


> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-
> bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Leitl
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:54 PM
> To: ExI chat list
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Creating software with qualia
> 
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:08:55PM -0700, Brent Allsop wrote:
> 
> > We do very similar thinking things with similar different kinds of
> models as
> > what you describe these software robots doing.  The critical difference
> is -
> > all of our conscious knowledge or models are represented with qualia -
> > rather than abstract information represented by arbitrary causal
> properties.
> 
> What is "abstract information represented by arbitrary causal properties",
> please?
> 
> I think you're a piece of pretty abstract information. Convince me of the
> opposite.
> 
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