[extropy-chat] effing

[gts]

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:36:56 -0500, Acy Stapp <acy.stapp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Or rather, Are the balls still reen, even though no being is able to
> perceive said color?

I think Locke would be forced to answer in the affirmative: the balls are  
still reen even though no being can see the color reen.

In that case his secondary qualities of objects are better defined as the  
powers of objects to cause qualia in the experience of beings capable of  
experiencing them.

For example, to blind bats equipped with sonar, object X has a sonar  
quale. That quale of object X would be a quality of object X even if bats  
were extinct.

Even if bats were extinct, the sonar quale of object X would still be a  
secondary quality of object X. That quale could perhaps be experienced by  
human minds.

-gts