[extropy-chat] GM Food [was: World map of human ES cell and nuclear transfer policies]

[Samantha Atkins]

Saying there are enough calories produced does not say there is  
adequate food if the calories are not of the proper kind or available  
when, where and as needed.  The report to its credit does talk a bit  
about this.  I have seen counter-claims that there is not enough food  
produced and/or that the margins are dangerously thin.  I am  
uncertain as to how to arrive at the truth of the matter.

Statements such as "in every food-short region, others still enjoy  
adequate access to food"  do not lead me to give a lot of credence to  
the url.  It is possible to import some food to even the worse  
drought area.  Importing enough to feed everyone can be a bit more of  
a challenge.  Setting up sustainable local food production or other  
economy adequate to import sufficient food is more difficult yet.   
Without that it doesn't seem reasonable to me to say "enough food is  
produced".

Ah, I see.  We supposedly have enough food if everyone is vegetarian  
but not otherwise.
So it looks like we only have enough food produced today if you  
change what a significant portion of the world looks at as food.   
Hmm.    Somehow I doubt that is going to happen.

- samantha

On Dec 7, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Dirk Bruere wrote:

>
>
> On 12/7/05, Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 6, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Dirk Bruere wrote:
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>>
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>> On 12/6/05, Robert Bradbury < robert.bradbury at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've changed the subject because this isn't really related to  
>> human stem cell engineering.
>>
>> It relates to arguably one of the most significant extropic  
>> problems we currently face and its solutions.
>>
>> First, hunger and starvation are significant causes of entropy --  
>> every year killing from 10 to 36 million people [6].  This is  
>> highly unextropic because all of the energy, matter and time that  
>> went into creating, growing and teaching those human beings is  
>> completely lost!
>>
>>
>> Which has nothing to do with GM foods.
>> The problem of malnourishment is a *political* problem - not a  
>> technological one.
>> There is plenty of food for everyone on the planet.
>
> Proof please.
>
> http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/uu22we/uu22we09.htm
>
> Dirk
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