My monopolist, right or wrong/was Re: [extropy-chat] my country, right or wrong

Technotranscendence neptune at superlink.net
Sun Dec 18 06:00:51 UTC 2005


On Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:54 PM Rik van Riel riel at surriel.com
wrote:
>> Nope.  You move to private militaries and then
>> you can use technologies like nuclear weapons
>> in self-defense.
>
> Private "militaries" have been nothing but trouble
> in countries where they are common, eg. Somalia,
> Colombia, southern Russia.

In the middle case above, the problem is outside funding of them and
also that what's really going on looks more like a civil war.  In fact,
free entry into the security market is not an option in Colombia.
Without that, that means there's some form of statism going on -- and,
in this case, the only meaning to various groups being "private" really
just means they're not recognized as states even if they are.  (Recall,
states have territorial monopolies on the use of force.)

> Having too much power without checks and
> balances is bound to lead to several cases of abuse...

I agree.  What "checks and balances" do you suggest?  Having a monopoly
that answers to no one (since no one can successful challenge it)
control security and law?  I feel the best check and balance on such
power is to have power to rival or check it.  That means not having a
monopolist in security production.  I believe that once one has such a
monopoly in place, it's only a matter of time before it erodes all
checks and balances on its powers.  (This is not to say having a free
market in security production is not without its problems.  It's merely
better than the alternatives.)

Regards,

Dan
http://uweb1.superlink.net/~neptune/

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