[extropy-chat] Singularitarian verses singularity

Brandon Reinhart transcend at extropica.com
Thu Dec 22 15:48:34 UTC 2005


> If a lot of the people on this list actually *tried* to research and build
the technologies they so blithely shoot their mouths off about on
messageboards, they'd soon be shocked at just how stupid they really were.  

No, they would discover how uneducated they were in regard to that
particular subject and they would begin the process of educating themselves.
This stands as a credit to the people who would go from a state of being
uneducated to a state of being educated. It stands as a credit that they are
interested enough to get involved, to learn enough to make strong arguments,
etc.

Yet you state it as an indictment, which it is not.

> And if people can be so horribly wrong about technical stuff, isn't it
even more likely that they're equally deluded about society, politics, life,
the universe etc and other areas where they don't have any expertise?  Of
course!

Argue their statements on their merits and leave it at that. Generalized
statements of superiority are exactly what you claim you suffered at the
hands of SL4. I've read the SL4 archives. You've said some crackpot things.
When people respond to your theories, you become defensive:

http://www.sl4.org/archive/author.html
(Search for "Marc Geddes" to find his section.)

Your statement "isn't it even more likely that they're equally deluded" is
poor logic and decidedly nonconstructive. If you want to be constructive,
contribute to the education of people who claim to be ignorant, but do so on
the basis of fact.

On SL4, you regularly post things like:

"My theory is that fundamentally reality is equivalent to 'Cognition' (in a
suitably generalized sense of the word 'cognition')."

That doesn't mean _anything_. You offer no meaningful explanation.

"The prime field is the 'Possibility' field (Consisting of cognition).  The
other 6 fields are simply different manifestations of the Prime field."

That doesn't mean _anything_. You offer no meaningful explanation.

http://www.sl4.org/archive/0508/11717.html

Earlier this year you even claimed you had no idea what you were talking
about:

http://www.sl4.org/archive/0502/10720.html

You write about "universal morality" and other big word concepts, but you
don't over any depth of explanation as to what you mean, or what these words
mean in the context you use them, etc:

http://www.sl4.org/archive/0402/7889.html

And then you dare to act accused when people who have written extremely
detailed theories on things like FAI, GAI claim you are a nut?

Half of your posts are saying things like "Bend it like Geddes" and other
statements of egoism. I'm sorry your feelings were wounded, but you deserved
it.

Brandon




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