[extropy-chat] Re: The Force of Human Freedom

[Samantha Atkins]

OK.   So what is your suggestion for how to deal with the level of 
threat that you perceive?


On Jan 30, 2005, at 7:16 PM, Greg Burch wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Damien Broderick
>
>> At 05:24 PM 1/30/2005 -0600, Greg Burch wrote:
>
>>>
>>> A kind-hearted person of good will, circa 1933: "Won't those people 
>>> just
>>> shut up with their negativity about Hitler and Hirohito?  How can 
>>> they
>>> sleep at night or get out of bed in the morning with all that
>>> fear-mongering?!?!"
>>
>> Hang on, this is a rather different kind of story isn't it?
>> Muslims hither
>> and yon =/= a mad dictator with plans for world conquest. The
>> threat might
>> well be real, but as Steve Davies and others have argued it derives 
>> from
>> different drivers. What worries me is that the analogy looks closer 
>> to:
>>
>> < circa 1933: "Won't those people just shut up with their
>> negativity about
>> Jews and gypsies all around the place?  How can they sleep at
>> night or get
>> out of bed in the morning with all that fear-mongering?!?!" >
>>
>> That would not have been the most helpful response, either, but it 
>> places
>> the burden of proof where it belongs, and foreshadows something 
>> terrible
>> for the stigmatized groups.
>>
>> Damien Broderick
>
> I'll certainly acknowledge there are significant differences between 
> the threat of old-style secular fascism in the 1930s and islamofascism 
> in the 1970s-20??, but I have concluded that we stand in an analogous 
> situation in terms of the world's willingness to wake up to and deal 
> with the threat.
>
> As for "stigamatized people" -- go tell it to Theo van Gogh.
>
> GB
> _______________________________________________
> extropy-chat mailing list
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat