[extropy-chat] Bill Moyers' Comments - Debunked

[Samantha Atkins]

On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:43:25AM -0800, Samantha Atkins wrote:
>
>> Are you sure this is what we voted for?  Are you vetting the last
>
> Yes. Nobody contested the vote. It look as if a small majority (i.e. 
> trees
> and shrubs voting vor Bush) voted for this administration. No 
> secession, no
> armed uprise, no emigration. Yep, you voted for them.

That is not a remotely reasonable attitude.   Besides the ones I voted 
for and support did contest the election.   There is more than a little 
blaming the victims here.   Secession or armed uprising at this time 
would simply result in a lot of dead or imprisoned people more o your 
liking and an even more draconian state.   I don't know what you are up 
to with this line but frankly it sucks big time.

>
>> election?  Do any people really deserve destruction at the hands of
>> their supposed servants?   Do those within and without the US who did
>
> Is that a rhetorical question? If no, I see exactly zero unrest, and 
> people
> marching on the streets. Yes, you have the government you deserve.

I am done with this conversation until you start speaking with some 
balance again.

>
>> not vote for this also deserve whatever hell it turns out to be?
>
> I think at this stage of the game it is obvious that the only 
> countries that
> are safe are those with credible deterrence potential.
>
> Unfortunately, the EU is too slow to realize that, and start investing 
> in a
> nuclear umbrella (teaming up with Russia would seem like a good idea), 
> as
> well as the ability to protect its assets in orbit and/or be able to
> terminate enemy assets.
>
>

So by your logic the EU deserves what it gets unless they and other 
countries gang up and attack the US?