[Bulk] [extropy-chat] Bill Moyers' Comments - Global Environment Citizen Award

[Keith Henson]

At 12:12 AM 10/01/05 -0800, you wrote:
>Keith,
>
>I am curious.  What was your opinion before on such ethics (not to mention 
>whether it is a worthwhile use of the computational resources)

That uploading people without their consent was unethical.

>and what is it now?

It is still unethical, but perhaps justified considering what they want to 
do to the rest of us.

>If, on either side of your chance of heart, you would subject them to a 
>simulated Rapture, would they be on the "losing" or "winning" end of same?  :-)

Hmm.  I thought "god's side" winning was part of the story.

>I would be more tempted to run them through a sim where humanity destroys 
>itself but before they die they understand utterly that their own 
>erroneous beliefs and those of their siblings in spirit, were responsible 
>and that their beliefs were in fact totally bogus.

Not worth it.  Bad enough to give them want they claim to want.  I suspect 
the operators would have to mess with their boredom threshold to keep them 
from going mad after a simulated thousand years of singing around a 
simulated thrown of God.

>No need for upload though. A vivid set of induced dreams should do the trick.

I think having a bunch of them in the throws of induced rapture dreams 
flailing around in reality isn't a good idea.  In fact, that's much the 
problem we have now.

Keith Henson



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>Keith Henson wrote:
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>>At 11:17 AM 07/01/05 -0600, you wrote:
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>>>>This is a chilling speech, worth reading, and in my judgment, well 
>>>>worth passing on.  Unfortunately, it will only be heeded by those of us 
>>>>who are not "believers."  The ones who need to understand it, won't...
>>
>>I must admit it has changed my mind about the ethics of uploading the lot 
>>of these loons and subjecting them to a simulated rapture.
>>
>>Keith Henson
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