[extropy-chat] Trees and EVs
Extropian Agroforestry Ventures Inc.
megao at sasktel.net
Tue Jan 11 05:03:18 UTC 2005
Urilizing a robotic tree pruning system that runs on a combination of
electric/methanol fuel cells and extracting valuable bioactives from
the tree biomass would make even an energy in = energy out marginal
biomass productivity
system economically viable.
Dan Clemmensen wrote:
> Kevin Freels wrote:
>
>> So who wants to start work developing a home solar/wind combo
>> re-charging
>> station?
>>
>>
>>
> OK, now we have it: Grow trees and leave them standing: they sequester
> carbon as they grow.
>
> Harvest the fallen leaves in the fall into big leaf piles. Convert the
> leaves into methanol and/or methane
> as needed. Any extra leaves can be sequestered to given to folks who
> have no trees.
>
> Convert the methanol and/or methane into electricity to charge the EV
> and run the home electrical system
>
> Use the process heat to heat/cool the house.
>
> The major advantage of this approach is that you can implement it
> locally, with no
> infrastructure.
>
> The major disadvantages are two-fold:
> 1) high capital cost.
> 2) high complexity.
>
> OK, how many tons of leaves do we need to do this? Research the
> following: for each, identify
> the capital costs and the conversion factor.
>
> 1) Leaves-> methanol/methane
> 2) methane-> electricity
> 3) methanol->electricity
> 4) Acres (eastern US) ->leaves.
> 5) electricity->road miles.
>
> Note: those of us with private septic systems can generate additional
> methane.
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