[extropy-chat] feeling more better

[Samantha Atkins]

On Jul 9, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Mike Lorrey wrote:

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> --- Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
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>> If I were to express my abhorrence in a similar way then I would wish
>> that you and those who agree with you would be at ground zero if such
>> a thing was done.  But since I understand what you apparently miss I
>> would not wish that on you.  What you are missing is that all "those.
>> people" are all potential immortals.  Exactly why do they deserve to
>> miss eternity for some real or imagined stupidities of their
>> (relatively) *very* early childhood?
>>
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> It appears here, Samantha, that you now contradict your reaction to
> Robert Bradbury a while back when he expressed similar sentiments  
> about
> the deaths of millions due to ignorance and superstition.

No.  His "solution" denied what he was attempting to further.

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> Of course they could miss eternity because of their own mistakes.  
> Maybe
> they should, that is the point of evolution: to weed out the unfit.

We are not talking of evolution but of what we propose to do.

> How
> does the transhumanist movement expect the Singularity to be an
> evolutionary step upward if we bootstrap every idiot and moron?

Idiots and morons have the potential to grow beyond their idiocy.  I  
trust you have noticed some growth in yourself over time.

We are every one an "idiot and moron" compared to what we seek to  
become.  I don't see where some of the idiots and morons are capable  
of summarily saying that some other idiots and morons deserve no  
chance.  I am not a total pacifist but I believe death should only be  
dealt when there is no other way and that we should be very conscious  
of what we are doing in light of our own dreams and goals.

> I have
> no problem with an entrance exam to posthumanity.

Administered by the likes of you or I?  I have a huge problem with that.

- samantha
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