[extropy-chat] Many eyes

[Samantha Atkins]

I am less trusting.  The timing was too useful.  I am too suspicious  
after 911, the "Patriot Act" and the rest.   I very much doubt the  
real perps will ever be found.

- samantha

On Jul 10, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Dan Clemmensen wrote:

> Dirk Bruere wrote:
>
>
>> Dan Clemmensen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To increase pre-explosion coverage, the public should be  
>>> encouraged to make random pictures in public places, more or less  
>>> continuously. If nothing  interesting happens, most of these  
>>> digital pictures will never even be stored. If something bad  
>>> happens, the pictures from prior to the event would become  
>>> available for analysis.
>>>
>>> Privacy? Sorry, These are pictures taken by individuals, in  
>>> public places. There is no right to privacy in this venue.
>>>
>>> I live in the Washington DC area. I thought of this  concept  
>>> during the ugly "sniper attack" situation last year.
>>>
>>
>>
>> An average Londoner will be picked up on hundreds of cameras on a  
>> normal day.
>> The security services have had the City cameras connected to  
>> computer syatems that tracks every car entering and leaving that  
>> area for years, due to IRA attacks. I also recall that they were  
>> trialling a system in the 90s where the face of every person  
>> caught on camera was compared to a database of wanted people.
>>
>> The bombers will undoubtedly have been caught on camera and even  
>> now extremely powerful computersystems will be running pattern  
>> matching and people-tracing algorithms on all captured video for  
>> hours before and hours after the attack. I suspect that by now  
>> they may well have pictures of some of those responsible.
>>
>> It's how the last London bomber was caught.
>>
>>
> Yes, Dick. The authorities do have a lot of video coverage,  
> garnered at great expense, and they are working hard at analyzing  
> it. The authorities have (in the last six hours or so) broadcast a  
> request to the public for any video or other pictures that the  
> public may have.
>
> This request conveys two facts:
> 1) the "official" record is incomplete.
> 2) the "official analysts have not yet found the perpetrators.
>
> I do not contend that "official"cameras and analysts are  
> inadequate. Rather, I contend that society need not depend on the  
> official infrastructure. As individuals, we can instead fine the  
> perpetrators ourselves. Ten thousand amateurs are at least as  
> effective as a hundred professionals. This is the "cathedral"  
> versus the "bazaar" with a vengence (using the term advisedly.)
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