[extropy-chat] Authenticity, extropy, libertarianism, and history

[Samantha Atkins]

On Jul 12, 2005, at 11:50 PM, Damien Sullivan wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:37:58PM -0500, Max More wrote:
>
>
>> me from further comments, but I went ahead. My political views  
>> have NEVER
>> earned me any points throughout my years in an academia thoroughly
>> dominated by ?liberals?, i.e. heavy duty statists. When I was 15  
>> or 16, I
>>
>
> I just wanted to note that I've been having a growing sense of the  
> diversity
> of meanings of 'liberal' and 'conservative'.  In particular,  
> outside the US
> 'liberal' seems to mean 'markets', and something like a safety-net
> libertarianism.  E.g. the Lib Dems of the UK
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_(UK)

These don't resemble libertarians at all as far as I can see.   
Libertarians are not the same as liberals.

>
> or much of
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
>
>  From a minarchist POV, "heavy duty statist" covers a wide range,  
> from basic
> safety nets or collective health or old age insurance to  
> nationalization and
> hate crime laws.
>

Yep.  Personally I am a libertarian looking forward to true abundance  
where most necessities are free but NOT handed out by some government.

- samantha