[extropy-chat] A first cut logical struct. for impeachings - a high level how to doc

[Robert Lindauer]

Brett, if you're looking for the support of a coupla thousand people, 
that I can help with, but if you're looking for the support of a senator 
or congressperson able to bring the charge, I'm afraid finding one of 
those is as likey as finding a Hawaiian Rail pair mating naturally on Oahu.

Robbie


Brett Paatsch wrote:

> Just some musings I'd like to put on public record.
>  
> -----
>  
> On the accused - the impeachee   
>  
> It is argued.
>  
> 1) That he knew the relevant law beforehand. 
>             (see records of public statements)
>         
> 2) That he was specifically and personally duty and oath
>     bound to uphold that law.
>             (see US Constitution, UN Charter, US and UN Resolutions)
>  
> 3) That he then broke that law.
>             (see facts)
>  
> 4) That he knows he broke that law.
>             (mens re - criminal intent)
>  
> 5) That he is unremorseful and would break that law again!
>   
>     (And is a clear and present danger whilst remaining
>     at large and is likely to act to avoid impeachment,
>     intimidate witnesses and destroy evidence)
>  
> Prospective impeachees:
>  
> 1 George W Bush
> 2 Dick Cheney
> 3 Donald Rumsfeld 
> 4.
> 5.
>  
> Prospective impeachers:
>  
>   Any number of fine American patriots
>  
> Means:
>   1 Popular movement caused by disatisfaction with consequences
>  
> (those with an interest in impeachment occurring might say so
> publicly, as such is political, and non violent form of expression.
> Likely these might be terms traitors and terrorist appeasers which
> aint so so best to have a clear stand on public record of being
> pro-rule of law)
>  
>   2 then House
>   3 then Senate
>  
> On the evidence:
>  
> - Documents are better than witness testimony.
> - Witness testimony is better if corroborated and first hand.
> - Better strategically to not name all documents and witnesses beforehand
>   for their own protection.
> - Rare original or early copies of evidence to be protected, copies
>  made and widely distributed to avoid destruction.
>  
> On witnesses:
>    Candidate witnesses
>  
> Compile list so that candidate witnesses good health and wellbeing can
> be monitored (for their own safety) perhaps by international media.  
>  
> Include current and former staffers, generals, media reporters,
> diplomats, foreign heads of state (?).
>  
> From list of candidate witnesses only some would actually be called
> by senate to bear witness.
>  
> -----
>  
> Hmm, its rough, but a start and can be fleshed out later. Impeachment
> is both legal and political. A populace that does not care will not
> uphold its own laws. But time and events can make wrongs done
> become clearer and the political will can build. Legally, the facts are
> the facts.  
>  
> Brett Paatsch
>
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