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[matus at matus1976.com]

Way to go guys, scare off another potential extropian.  Because there are certainly too many of them.  

David, do not come to think that the abrasiveness of Eliezer, Damien and others is the prevalent attitude on this list (though its certainly present) think more of Amara or Mike Lorreys responses.  Basically, the abrasives think the things you believe are hogwash (as do I) and couldnt be bothered to even give a moment of time to try to explain, calmly and rationally, to you, why they are.  That's fine, I am way to busy to post frequently but I do fervently read nearly every post and still find this one of the most intellectually stimulating forums.  But they dont stop there, instead these abrasive types prefer to re affirm their own intellectual superiority by spotlighting how intellectual inferior they feel you are.  If that were not the case, they would just filter you out, or ignore your posts. 

To Extropes, If he becomes a troll then ban him.  It seems reasonable to think he is not.  Clearly something brought David Stiger to this forum, instead of harassing and chastising him for beliefs that are wrong, we should welcome him and attempt to explain calmly why those beliefs are probably mistaken, and find value in the common ground that brought him here.  Thank you Amara and Mike for attempting it.  Shame on Damien and Eliezer for being reprehensible jerks.

David, I highly recommend reading Carl Sagan's book, 'Science as a candle in the dark', or Michael Shermer's Book 'Why people believe wierd things'  They might give you the intellectual foundation for understanding why these grand conspiracy theories are wrong.

Matus

----- Original Message -----
First of all let me say that I am sorry to have offended some of you by 
asking these questions, and I am also sorry to learn that so many of you 
cannot live with the fact that I believe there is some kind of larger "shall 
we call it conspiracy" having to do with the masons and the leaders of 
religious groups and government officials all over our planet.  I did  not 
inted to come off as someone trying to push my ideas, just as someone who 
wanted to hear the opinions of people who seem to have a great knowledge of 
the world.  I know now that even people who are supposedly open to 
discussing the big problems and issues of our planet, can also be very close 
minded.  I will continue to read the extropy chat list, but I believe you 
suceeded in convincing me that posting about anything other than 
hard-fact-based issues is something many of you just can't seem to handle.  
I thought it would make for an interesting discussion, but I guess not.  
Thanks to those of you who only tried to answer my questions and did not 
immediately criticize my views, I appreciate tolerance in all it's forms.


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