[extropy-chat] unidirectional thrust

[Dirk Bruere]

Mike Lorrey wrote:

>--- Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com> wrote:
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>>At 08:43 PM 3/14/2005 -0800, spike wrote:
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>>>[I sez:] the equal
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>>>>and opposite force goes into the magnet which is bolted to the
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>>floor and
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>>>>hence doesn't move because the entire earth takes up the impact.
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>>>The earth moves back the other way.  Not very much of
>>>course, being as it is 6E24 kg, but it reacts the same
>>>way any mass would.  Momentum is conserved.
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>>Quite so. But the point Mike wants to assert, I gather, is that his 
>>favorite gadget kicks against the entire unimaginably massive Machian
>>frame of the universe, thereby extracting momentum and having its
>>way with it. 
>>More fashionably, perhaps one might imagine doing this magic against
>>the bulk brane substrate of M Theory (or something equally
>>audacious). The proponents cited by Mike do use such wishful phrases
>>as `electrogravitational coupling'...
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>You've got it. This is the mechanism we need to not only claim the
>solar system but the stars as well. Virtually 100% of the propulsion
>engineers out there are 100% rooted in strictly newtonian mechanics and
>generally lack a clue in applying Maxwell's equations or relativity to
>actual technological mechanisms that do physical work without turning
>back again to Newton.
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>If Mach's Principle is true, and inertia is the whole universe
>resisting your acceleration (when gravity is light speed dependent,
>thus must have a time travel component to resist your push when you
>push), there has to be a way to use it to lever one's spaceship against
>the entire universe in return.
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Then either:
a) There is a preferred reference frame and relativity goes out the 
window, or
b) This is a recipe for an over unity device.

Take your pick.

-- 
Dirk

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