[extropy-chat] Tipler's report card

[Dirk Bruere]

Eugen Leitl wrote:

>On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 05:41:54PM +0100, Dirk Bruere wrote:
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>>All of these predictions rely on the unlikely scenario (given the 
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>You cannot attach any probability to either branch. Occam's razor is against
>the simulation branch.
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Not if infinite computing power is available, as Tipler claims.

>>hypothesis) that we are living in the real universe, near the beginning, 
>>and not in one of the myriad simulations at the omega point. Tipler did 
>>not take his logic far enough.
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>Tipler is a deeply religious person, and that part of his theory isn't. It's
>a religion. Even if his physics was correct (which it isn't), the properties 
>he ascribes to the Omega point are arbitrary (or, rather, the opposite).
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>http://www.middx.org.uk/gordo/ellis3.html is a pretty flawed critique, but it
>has some valid points.
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>>If Tipler is correct then the state of our visible universe is irrelevent.
>>The hypothesis renders itself untestable.
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>Why are so many transhumanists filled with the need to establish a yet
>another belief system? This is actively damaging to the work we claim 
>we're trying to do.
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Tipler's argument leads inevitably to the Simulation Argument.
In fact, it is the strongest form of the Simulation Argument.

-- 
Dirk

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