Question for Samantha on religion in the US? (was Re: [extropy-chat] Original Sin was Bioethics Essay)

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at
Wed May 25 02:27:10 UTC 2005

I've spent the past two weeks moving and unpacking.  Between that and  
the day job not a lot has been done.

I looked briefly online at the qualifications required principally by  
the IRS.  They are largely written in such a way that almost no new  
religion or even most bootstrapped branch churches of existing  
religions could possibly qualify.    The specter of the IRS  
determining what makes a religion a religion is appalling.

Thank you for your kind offer but my energies for now are going into  
creating the base level teachings, memetics and substance of the  
religion rather than fighting through IRS nonsense.   Without that  
the legalisms are pointless.

- samantha

On May 24, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Brett Paatsch wrote:

> Samantha Atkins wrote:
>> Knowledge never was a sin in Christianity to the best of my   
>> experience and knowledge of it.   Let's stop speaking as if it  
>> were  unless someone has something a lot more authoritative than a
>> ....  The work of reaching some  Christians is difficult enough
>> without making things up that make it harder.
> I agree.
> Btw: have you developed your idea of a transhuman religion
> any? I'd be particularly interested in seeing how the legal aspects  
> of founding it would work if you tried to found it
> in some particular state within the US such as perhaps the
> one where you currently live or plan to settle. If you want
> to check out the legal aspect of that I'd be happy take a
> look at it with you as a way of learning how a religion is  
> established and dealt with by the current law of the US,
> together.
> Don't wait to long though or I'll have to rescind the offer,
> and this offer from me, isn't open to everyone, it is specific
> to you. (ie. You'd have to make the running on it though just
> like the Avantguardian wrote his essay, and so its *his* essay).
> I *think* the exercise at looking at how religion fits into the
> legal structure in the US might be of interest to others on
> this list.
> Regards,
> Brett Paatsch
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