[extropy-chat] Pearson: Conventional telecoms is obsolete

kevinfreels.com kevin at kevinfreels.com
Wed May 25 22:57:13 UTC 2005

I have VoIP for my mortgage office for both fax and phone lines. I have used
it for six months now and I have never had a problem with it. I do pay an
extra $6.95 month for a 512k upstream connection while the regular rate is
for a 256k upstream connection. You may want to see what your upstream is.
Some cable connections have excellent downstreams for advertising their
service while their upstream is lousy. Also, many ISPs have been known to
interfere with VoIP service on occasion.
Whatever the case, I have not had the difficulties many have expressed with
VoIP and I have three computers sharing that same connection. With VoIP I
have managed to cut my regular $350+ month phone bill to just $60 so I am a
BIG fan.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. Andrew Rogers" <andrew at ceruleansystems.com>
To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Pearson: Conventional telecoms is obsolete

> Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > Having endured some 6 months of terrible service from multiple VoIP
> > telephone companies (Vonage and Packet8), I have serious doubts about
> > the telecoms dying off any time soon. VoIP sucks big wads, to put it
> > simply.
> Correlation is not causation.
> Put simply, the VoIP companies you mention are VoIP service companies,
> not networking companies.  The problem isn't VoIP, it is a poorly built
> network (some combination of yours and theirs).  You bought a beater
> Yugo and declared that all automobiles are unreliable, uncomfortable,
> and underpowered based on your experience.
> Which is why VoIP services offered by genuine network operators tend to
> work very well as a rule.  VoIP is actually more robust and reliable
> than old-fashioned voice circuits if the network is built right.  If you
> buy VoIP services from a company that doesn't know squat about building
> good networks or use it over a cheapo ISP that doesn't know squat about
> building good networks, quality of protocols used over that network is
> going to suffer.
> I suppose that you also blame that damn TCP protocol when your internet
> connection goes out and you can't access the Web.
> j. andrew rogers
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